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Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: OldBloke on August 09, 2004, 09:57:04 PM
We would like to enlist the help of as many members as possible to try and track down the cause of the server lag.

This what you need to do:
We will post what we'd like done with the files after the test.

As this is very short notice we may repeat the exercise at a later date.

Cheers.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Grimnar on August 09, 2004, 10:22:05 PM
k will do.

We post the files in here?
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Benny on August 09, 2004, 10:25:58 PM
Just to beak in.

What would solve it is if you had someone with a host right next to the server, same lan preferably (stryker/doggers) then you can prove app or network..

I'll bugger off now.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: OldBloke on August 09, 2004, 10:28:40 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Benny@Aug 9 2004, 10:25 PM
... What would solve it is if you had someone with a host right next to the server, same lan preferably ...
Not a goer I'm afraid. :(
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Benny on August 09, 2004, 10:42:12 PM
hmm....can you hit the server hard on another app? How bout connecting from Homer or Baldric, running constant pings from those, see if they drop.

I don't think a load of traces are gonna show anything other than random drops..

/cynic..

Sorry been to long in networking.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: OldBloke on August 09, 2004, 11:33:57 PM
All input appreciated Benny.

I'm well passed the 'hair-pulling' stage with this problem.

What we have is a lag 'event' about every 5mins where most (not all) people on the server 'freeze' for 5 seconds or more. The server appears to be totally OK during the periods between outages.

We've run a single, mod-free server having turned off the forums and website and the lag was still evident. <_<

We've tried the server's 2nd nic. Still lag.

This all points, IMHO, to the network but at this stage I'd consider any plausable cause.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 09, 2004, 11:36:23 PM
Can we get streaming video off the server to see if that get choppy?

Have we ever checked HLTV to see if that lags?

Is there anything in server logs? We're running Server2003 aren't we? What has been configured for monitoring through PERFMON? (it is sometimes quite a useful tool and I am of course assuming that it is still avail on 2003 and they didn't ditch it after server2000)

Just some thoughts.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 09, 2004, 11:44:01 PM
Won't let me edit :(

Does everyone on the server lag or just some? If everyone is lagging then the prob must be inside or close to crosswired as network routes will be widely different outside (didn't they have at least two routes out?)
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: OldBloke on August 09, 2004, 11:46:27 PM
We're running W2K Server.

Not all people lag. Sadako, for example, doesn't lag.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 09, 2004, 11:51:43 PM
Mmm, would be interesting to compare Sadakos traceroutes to other peoples to see how his packets come into crosswired. Does he have his own private T1 line in? ;)
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Maus on August 10, 2004, 12:12:54 AM
This info won't be worth much, but whenever I have big lag issues on the hook I run a tracert to see what's going on - nine times out of ten there's no problem, but occasionally I get massive problems en route to (and through) crosswired. I think though that they start the one before I get to crosswired.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Dr Sadako on August 10, 2004, 07:44:08 AM
Target Name: //www.deadmen.co.uk
         IP: 193.110.88.19
  Date/Time: 2004-08-10 08:41:48

 1    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms  [192.168.2.100]
 2    4 ms    5 ms    5 ms    5 ms  [82.182.99.1]
 3    5 ms    5 ms    4 ms    4 ms  cr1-gig1-3.djakneg16.mlm.bostream.net [82.182.4.13]
 4   13 ms   13 ms   14 ms   14 ms  cr2-gig1-1.torgg4.sth.bostream.net [82.182.0.17]
 5   14 ms   13 ms   13 ms   14 ms  [193.158.5.53]
 6   40 ms   39 ms   40 ms   40 ms  ams-e4.AMS.NL.net.DTAG.DE [62.154.15.2]
 7   35 ms   35 ms   35 ms   35 ms  amsix1.teleglobe.net [195.69.145.168]
 8   66 ms   48 ms   48 ms   47 ms  if-5-0.core1.Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [80.231.80.5]
 9   48 ms   47 ms   47 ms   48 ms  if-6-0.core2.London2.teleglobe.net [80.231.80.2]
10   47 ms   48 ms   48 ms   48 ms  if-2-0.core2.London.Teleglobe.net [195.219.96.121]
11  154 ms   47 ms   47 ms   47 ms  if-1-0-0.bb2.London.Teleglobe.net [195.219.96.77]
12   48 ms   48 ms   48 ms   48 ms  [195.219.2.18]
13   56 ms   56 ms   56 ms   60 ms  cwgway1.crosswired.co.uk [80.71.4.10]
14   56 ms   57 ms   56 ms   59 ms  [193.110.88.19]

Ping statistics for //www.deadmen.co.uk
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0,0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 56ms, Maximum = 59ms, Average = 57ms


-----------------------------------------------


Target Name: homer.deadmen.co.uk
         IP: 193.110.88.20
  Date/Time: 2004-08-10 08:53:12

 1    0 ms  [192.168.2.100]
 2    5 ms  [82.182.99.1]
 3   40 ms  cr1-gig1-3.djakneg16.mlm.bostream.net [82.182.4.13]
 4   13 ms  cr2-gig1-1.torgg4.sth.bostream.net [82.182.0.17]
 5   14 ms  [193.158.5.53]
 6   40 ms  ams-e4.AMS.NL.net.DTAG.DE [62.154.15.2]
 7   36 ms  amsix1.teleglobe.net [195.69.145.168]
 8   48 ms  if-5-0.core1.Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [80.231.80.5]
 9   47 ms  if-6-0.core2.London2.teleglobe.net [80.231.80.2]
10   48 ms  if-2-0.core2.London.Teleglobe.net [195.219.96.121]
11   48 ms  if-1-0-0.bb2.London.Teleglobe.net [195.219.96.77]
12   48 ms  [195.219.2.18]
13   57 ms  cwgway1.crosswired.co.uk [80.71.4.10]
14   56 ms  homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]

Ping statistics for homer.deadmen.co.uk
Packets: Sent = 1, Received = 1, Lost = 0 (0,0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 56ms, Maximum = 56ms, Average = 56ms
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 10, 2004, 07:44:54 AM
Target Name: homer.deadmen.co.uk
         IP: 193.110.88.20
  Date/Time: 10/08/2004 07:42:02 to 10/08/2004 07:43:37

Hop Sent Err   PL% Min Max Avg  Host Name / [IP]
 1    20   0   0.0   0   1   0  [10.1.1.1]
 2    20   1   5.0  15  19  16  gauss-dsl.zen.net.uk [62.3.82.18]
 3    20   1   5.0  15  46  17  deleuze-ge-0-1-0-1.hq.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.161]
 4    20   0   0.0  15  22  16  lotze-ge-0-0-0-0.hq.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.57]
 5    20   2  10.0  16  54  18  bolzano-ge-0-0-3-0.wh.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.53]
 6    20   1   5.0  16  32  17  erazmus-ge-0-0-1-0.wh.zen.net.uk [62.3.83.129]
 7    20   2  10.0  16  79  20  [212.121.34.12]
 8    18  18 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
 9    20   2  10.0  16 114  23  homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 10, 2004, 07:55:04 AM
Target Name: N/A
         IP: 193.110.88.19
  Date/Time: 10/08/2004 07:53:18

 1    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms  [10.1.1.1]
 2   16 ms   *       *       16 ms   16 ms   16 ms  gauss-dsl.zen.net.uk [62.3.82.18]
 3   15 ms   *       *       18 ms   15 ms   17 ms  deleuze-ge-0-1-0-1.hq.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.161]
 4   16 ms   17 ms   17 ms   28 ms   16 ms   15 ms  lotze-ge-0-0-0-0.hq.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.57]
 5   *       *       16 ms   17 ms   17 ms   17 ms  bolzano-ge-0-0-3-0.wh.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.53]
 6   17 ms   *       17 ms   16 ms   17 ms   16 ms  erazmus-ge-0-0-1-0.wh.zen.net.uk [62.3.83.129]
 7   17 ms   *       16 ms   17 ms   17 ms   17 ms  [212.121.34.12]
 8   *       *       *       *      N/A     N/A      [-]
 9   18 ms   *       19 ms   17 ms   17 ms   17 ms  [193.110.88.19]

Ping statistics for 193.110.88.19
Packets: Sent = 6, Received = 5, Lost = 1 (16.7%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 19ms, Average = 17ms
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 10, 2004, 08:00:19 AM
Sorry bout the tracert posts peeps, Sadako and i were comparing routes into and otu of .19 and .20 this morning.

....which brings us back to the request for PingPlotter use.

Running a tracert after the lag spike usually doesn't show show a problem.  The trace needs to be running during the problem as it is both temporary and intermittent in nature.

We need to establish where and how people connect to the server to build a map of the routes into the server.
If we compare pingplotter log files then we should be able to reasonably quickly identify if there is any common pattern amongst the lag spikes and the routing.

Start your Pingplotter log to 193.110.88.20 as soon as you get home.  
Leave it running and join the gaming no later than 8.00pm.
At 9.00pm please use File, Save Sample Set and save the log file to your hard drive.

I will turn on the upload facility for this topic at 9pm tonight so that members can upload their pingplotter logs directly into this forum topic AFTER 9pm tonight.

PLEASE post them ASAP after 9pm so that we can get on with it.

Many thanks.

TL.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: marsvolta on August 10, 2004, 08:26:15 AM
i'll try to do it
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2004, 08:54:34 AM
I'm not sure if I'll be able to or not as my PC is offline due to us getting the second part of my graphics card upgrade installed (the central heating). However, I can run pingplotter for the requested hour from another PC although the PC will not have CS installed.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2004, 09:19:51 AM
So you do not forget to start pingplotter do the following if you have WinXP:

Go to "Start//All Programs//Accessories//System Tools" and click on "Scheduled Tasks"  

Click "Add Scheduled Task" in the window and select "PingPlotter Freeware" from the list. Set it to run "one time only" and set the start time to 19:59 (if you are in UK). Enter the username/password it will run under (I think this has to be an admin account) and then click finish.

At 19:59 the ping plotter window will magically appear.

WARNING
You will still need to tell it to start tracing as I cannot find a way to make it trace automatically when it starts but at least you will be be reminded to start by the fact the window appears :)

HTH?
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Norm on August 10, 2004, 09:43:27 AM
Ok,what do you want the "samples to include" set as .
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: suicidal_monkey on August 10, 2004, 10:07:21 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Aug 10 2004, 08:19 AM
WARNING
You will still need to tell it to start tracing as I cannot find a way to make it trace automatically when it starts but at least you will be be reminded to start by the fact the window appears :)
In the shareware (30-day trial version) you can set up the ping automatically. Add the following switch in the command line arguement that the scheduler adds for your task (when setting up the task click the "advanced options" bit at the end of the wizard/helper
/TRACE:193.110.88.20
so that it looks something like:
C:\PROGRA~1\PINGPL~1\PingPlotter.exe /TRACE:193.110.88.20

note the : if you put in a space the program tries to open a file called 193.110.88.20 and throws error windows at you

I tried to add in an auto-save switch but it didn't like that (type command in the ping plotter help index to find the bit I found...) ;)
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2004, 10:28:38 AM
Cheers SM. Doesn't work for freeware version unfortunately :(
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 10, 2004, 11:16:42 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Norm@Aug 10 2004, 09:43 AM
Ok,what do you want the "samples to include" set as .
All hops please, plus all graphed.

Thanks.

TL.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 10, 2004, 11:18:20 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Aug 10 2004, 10:28 AM
Cheers SM. Doesn't work for freeware version unfortunately :(
Which I think is why we recommended the 30 day trial of the Shareware version, not the Freeware.  I am also not sure you can save a sample set in the freeware version - perhaps you can clarify BB as I have the shareware verison.  The verison comparison on the website seems to indicate that you cannot save data sets in the freeware version?

If in doubt, use the 30 day trial of the shareware version.

TL.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2004, 11:32:16 AM
Good point. I already had Ping plotter freeware so didn't bother with reading the post properly  :blush:

I'll download the shareware version and see what I can post about automating that to run.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2004, 11:46:56 AM
So you do not forget to start pingplotter do the following if you have WinXP and the SHAREWARE or registered version of Ping Plotter:

Go to "Start//All Programs//Accessories//System Tools" and click on "Scheduled Tasks"

Click "Add Scheduled Task" in the window and select "Ping Plotter" from the list. Set it to run "one time only" and set the start time to 19:59 (if you are in UK). Enter the username/password it will run under (I think this has to be an admin account) and BEFORE you click finish tick the little box to tell it to open advanced properties when finished. Now click finish.

In advanced properties edit the "run:" box to have " /TRACE:193.110.88.20" at the end. My command now looks like:

C:\PROGRA~1\PINGPL~2\PingPlotter.exe /TRACE:193.110.88.20

Note that there is a space after the word "exe" and before the "/". You might be asked to input your admin password again. Thats it; click OK to close the dialog and you can also close the scheduler window.

At 19:59 the ping plotter window will magically appear.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2004, 11:49:57 AM
The settings above could be modified to run every night if we decide we need more info. We could build up quite a little history if needed. The important thing is to "NOTE THE TIME THE LAG OCCURS" so it can be cross referenced to your data :D Please use the time on your PC not your watch ;)
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Benny on August 10, 2004, 11:53:57 AM
Sorry, another question.

Has anyone determined whether the lag occurs only with one player, or does it require more...
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 10, 2004, 11:56:54 AM
The lag occurs with one player (I have tried this myself).  
But not all players lag if more than one are on the server.
The bots do not lag.

TL.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: suicidal_monkey on August 10, 2004, 11:57:21 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Aug 10 2004, 10:49 AM
The settings above could be modified to run every night if we decide we need more info. We could build up quite a little history if needed. The important thing is to "NOTE THE TIME THE LAG OCCURS" so it can be cross referenced to your data :D Please use the time on your PC not your watch ;)
I think the output file tends to show the time in the output data...
Should we like be syncing our clocks somehow then? :D

Target Name: //www.deadmen.co.uk
IP: 193.110.88.19
Date/Time: 2004-08-10 08:41:48
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Norm on August 10, 2004, 11:57:26 AM
It laggs with  just me and  my BOT mates on.  :whistle:


"samples to include" is a figure,I think default is 10,so just leave it at that?
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2004, 12:16:03 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by suicidal_monkey@Aug 10 2004, 11:57 AM
I think the output file tends to show the time in the output data...
Should we like be syncing our clocks somehow then? :D

Target Name: //www.deadmen.co.uk
IP: 193.110.88.19
Date/Time: 2004-08-10 08:41:48
My server syncs from tock.usno.navy.mil and my PCs sync from my server.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: suicidal_monkey on August 10, 2004, 12:45:22 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall+Aug 10 2004, 11:16 AM-->
QUOTE (BlueBall @ Aug 10 2004, 11:16 AM)
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2004, 12:49:46 PM
From the Win XP help Program:

QuoteTo change the clock synchronization server:

If your computer is a member of a domain, your computer clock is probably synchronized automatically by a network time server. If your computer is not a member of a domain, your computer's clock is automatically and regularly synchronized by an Internet time server. This procedure provides information on switching to a different Internet time server.

Open Date and Time in Control Panel.
Click the Internet Time tab.
The Internet Time tab is not available if your computer is a member of a domain.

Select the Automatically synchronize with an Internet time server check box.
In the Server list, click the arrow, and then click the time server you want to use.
 Notes

To open Date and Time, click Start, click Control Panel, click Date, Time, Language, and Regional Options, and then click Date and Time.
Internet time synchronization updates your clock on a regular basis, but only when you are connected to the Internet. It takes just a moment and should not interfere with your work.
You can type the name of a time server if you want to use one that is not listed. Only time servers that use the Simple Network Time Protocol (SNTP) will work. Inserting an Internet address that uses the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) will not work. For more information, refer to RFC 1305. You can obtain RFCs from the RFC Editor Web site.
The time server time.windows.com is operated by Microsoft. The time server time.nist.gov is operated by the U.S. government. Other time servers provided by your computer's manufacturer may also be listed.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2004, 02:46:57 PM
TL/OB

Can one of you set up perfmon on the server to monitor CPU load, Disk IO and network IO this evening?

Just a thought? :)
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Maus on August 10, 2004, 05:51:56 PM
Possibly a pointless query, but given how stretched my connection already is when I play, is pingplotter likely to have an adverse effect on my gaming?
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 10, 2004, 06:57:32 PM
No.

TL.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Whitey on August 10, 2004, 07:54:10 PM
Will Homer be running a standard map cycle as I don't have some of the extras that normally run on Homer?
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 10, 2004, 09:01:48 PM
My log file.

Please post here if you do not have an 'upload file' box below the posting window.

TL.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Dr Sadako on August 10, 2004, 09:05:11 PM
My file
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Doorman on August 10, 2004, 09:05:32 PM
My contribution
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2004, 09:07:37 PM
My trace. Please note that I was not running CS on this computer so you can maybe use this as a "control" trace who knows.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: suicidal_monkey on August 10, 2004, 09:07:56 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Aug 10 2004, 08:01 PM
My log file.

Please post here if you do not have an 'upload file' box below the posting window.

TL.
no upload file box :huh:
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Maus on August 10, 2004, 09:08:25 PM
No upload box, but here: http://www.tangledslinky.org/cs/homer.deadmen.co.uk-maus.pp2 (http://www.tangledslinky.org/cs/homer.deadmen.co.uk-maus.pp2)
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Niel on August 10, 2004, 09:08:59 PM
how do i attach my file here ??
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: DeadMike on August 10, 2004, 09:09:46 PM
me can´t upload either
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Grimnar on August 10, 2004, 09:10:01 PM
also no box.

But you can get mine from here: ping ping .... (http://www.members.lycos.nl/icehawk/Icypingplotter.pp2)
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: suicidal_monkey on August 10, 2004, 09:10:45 PM
no upload box, but you can dl it here:
pp2, png and txt files in a zip (http://members.lycos.co.uk/jamena/dl/suicidal_monkey.zip)
(right click and save)
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Dr Sadako on August 10, 2004, 09:10:49 PM
If you can't attach your file send it directly via e-mail to

TeaLeaf at deadmen.co.uk and
OldBloke at deadmen.co.uk
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: RizZy on August 10, 2004, 09:11:22 PM
I didnt apear to have the upload jobbie, but I put it uploaded it elsewhere for ya - ping thingy (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/martin.reed8/homer.deadmen.co.uk%20-%20riz.pp2)
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2004, 09:13:37 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Niel@Aug 10 2004, 09:08 PM
how do i attach my file here ??
There should be a box and a "browse" button just above the "add reply" button. Use the browse button to find the file you need to upload and then click "add reply" :)
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: OldBloke on August 10, 2004, 09:16:18 PM
My data
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Whitey on August 10, 2004, 09:16:33 PM
I don't have the browse button but I'll e-mail the file.

Edit: File sent
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Doris on August 10, 2004, 09:16:58 PM
i havent got one either but ive emailed OB
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Dr Sadako on August 10, 2004, 09:17:10 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Sadako@Aug 10 2004, 09:10 PM
If you can't attach your file send it directly via e-mail to

TeaLeaf at deadmen.co.uk and
OldBloke at deadmen.co.uk
:)
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Zok on August 10, 2004, 09:17:27 PM
pingy thingy (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.steele4/homer.deadmen.co.uk.pp2)
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Norm on August 10, 2004, 09:24:15 PM
E-mailed to Mr.Leaf ;)
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Benny on August 10, 2004, 09:35:13 PM
I'm no genius, but all that says is that..

1. Zen and the art of networking is a boll0cks provider and you should bin 'em TL
2. The loss occurs with any router that peers wth Telecomplete.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 10, 2004, 09:42:22 PM
Doorman - have a look here (http://www.pingplotter.com/tutorial/ScenarioSaturatedPipe.html).  Yup, you have 'bandwidth saturation'.

Oh and I'm happy with Zen, but then I am used to ISDN....... ;)

TL.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2004, 09:47:32 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Benny@Aug 10 2004, 09:35 PM
2. The loss occurs with any router that peers wth Telecomplete.
How often have I seen that  <_<

Telecomplete regularly have crap pings through their hardware for me :(
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2004, 09:52:36 PM
here is a nice little example of the fun I get from Telecomplete:
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: OldBloke on August 10, 2004, 10:13:40 PM
Data from Doris
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: OldBloke on August 10, 2004, 10:14:08 PM
Data from Whitey
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Doorman on August 10, 2004, 11:46:52 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Aug 10 2004, 09:42 PM
Doorman - have a look here (http://www.pingplotter.com/tutorial/ScenarioSaturatedPipe.html).  Yup, you have 'bandwidth saturation'.

Oh and I'm happy with Zen, but then I am used to ISDN....... ;)

TL.
Will I live doctor?
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2004, 11:51:23 PM
Yes you will live but from now on you will be a small camel with flatulence. However, that is a small price to pay for getting rid of your poly-unsaturated bandwidth. :D

All Hail -=[dMw]=-FartyCamel  :devil:

I think I had better go to bed. The tablets are starting to wear off  :ph34r:  :dribble:
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: suicidal_monkey on August 11, 2004, 12:26:05 AM
Code Select
Target Name&#58; homer.deadmen.co.uk
     IP&#58; 193.110.88.20
 Date/Time&#58; 11/08/2004 00&#58;13&#58;55 to 11/08/2004 00&#58;20&#58;53

Hop Sent Err PL% Min Max Avg Host Name / &#91;IP&#93;
 2  419  0 0.0 17  61 19 host-83-146-17-33.bulldogdsl.com &#91;83.146.17.33&#93;
 3  419  0 0.0 18 333 33 caladan-gw-xp.lonap.net &#91;195.47.243.30&#93;
 4  419  5 1.2 26  80 31 cwrt1.crosswired.co.uk &#91;193.110.88.1&#93;
 5  419  3 0.7 27  77 31 homer.deadmen.co.uk &#91;193.110.88.20&#93;
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I seem to lose packets on the last 2 (crosswired and homer/crosswired) but get the worst max pings on the 2nd stop (lonap?) Plus my ingame net thing tends to hover around 60-70ms not 31 <_<
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: OldBloke on August 11, 2004, 07:08:16 AM
Data from Zok ...
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: OldBloke on August 11, 2004, 07:08:41 AM
Data from Brass ...
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: suicidal_monkey on August 11, 2004, 09:00:46 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by suicidal_monkey@Aug 10 2004, 08:10 PM
no upload box, but you can dl it here:
pp2, png and txt files in a zip (http://members.lycos.co.uk/jamena/dl/suicidal_monkey.zip)
(right click and save)
p.s. lag occurred once for me that I noted down at approximately 20:16:25 and maybe once later however I can't be sure :rolleyes:

lag occurred twice for a lot of other people (but not me) at 20:17:22 and 20:28:54

Forgot to put that down anywhere! :)
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Doris on August 11, 2004, 11:02:43 AM
so what has all this ping ploting stuff told us ??

 OB or TL  show us the light!
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 11, 2004, 02:48:11 PM
Give us a chance, we're cross-checking with the log files, but I think most of it is pretty obvious.

TL.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 11, 2004, 04:37:48 PM
Whitey's trace.

TL.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 11, 2004, 04:38:15 PM
DeadMike's trace

TL.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: TeaLeaf on August 11, 2004, 04:38:32 PM
Armitage's trace.

TL.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: OldBloke on August 14, 2004, 07:10:13 AM
Niel trace 1 ...
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: OldBloke on August 14, 2004, 07:10:39 AM
Niel trace 2 ...
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: DuVeL on August 14, 2004, 09:52:33 AM
Ehrm,  :help: What do I have to do exactly? I don't really get this kind of stuff.
I think mt trace will have something for you guys to look tin to because yesterdaynight, you guys were all lagging and I kept rushing. It happend allready a few times earlier that you guys were lagging out for 5 seconds, I had absolutely no problems.
Help this pingplotter n00 b out 4 what to do.
Title: Lag - Help needed
Post by: Doris on August 14, 2004, 11:54:44 AM
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