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Title: This Week Only
Post by: Gandalf on September 13, 2004, 04:58:47 PM
This Week Only (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_This_Week_Only_25.html)

I've just got one of the Gainward Ultra 2400 Golden Samples. Runs very nice. 11000 in 3dmark 03 with a XP 2700+ and 1GB ram.

Far Cry, all high detail. No slowdown at all. fraps shows 100+ FPS, except when outdoors. Then it dips to about 60.

UT2K4. Everything on max, again fraps showing 100+ fps, no matter what is going on.

oh, all res run at 1280 x 1024. Though 3d mark was default 1024 x 768
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Norm on September 13, 2004, 05:23:27 PM
I wish I could get decent cc system on webby,that doesnt cost the earth. :(

XTPC price: Exact same model and goodies £325. ;)
Title: This Week Only
Post by: TeaLeaf on September 13, 2004, 08:29:43 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Norm@Sep 13 2004, 05:23 PM
XTPC price: Exact same model and goodies £325. ;)
Please keep quoting the prices Norm, you'll get peeps biting over a period of time.  I will be asking you to quote for my total system upgrade when BTX/PCIe and the new socket dust settles.

TL.
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Norm on September 13, 2004, 10:09:02 PM
Will do,just hope cases carry on the cooling improvements implemented on the boards. <_<
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Anonymous on September 14, 2004, 10:40:41 AM
I got the XFX normal 6800 GT. I overclocked it to 400/1100 out of the box and its rock solid. (Under £290 inc VAT and del)
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Norm on September 14, 2004, 10:53:34 AM
How do you rate it BB so far?
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Anonymous on September 14, 2004, 11:02:17 AM
Obviously the x800xt and 6800Ultra will be better cards but I'm very happy with it. OCd it is over 11000 3D Marks and I can play games high res, high qulity, 4x/8x quite happily.

I know that there are pros and cons with DX8/DX9 games and whether ATi or nVidia solutions are better. I had a lon look around before I bought it and weighed up what I want to do with it. I went for the "good value for money balanced all rounder with a bit of future proofing built in" approach :)

i don't think that the X800 Pro is a particularly good value card as GT outperforms it regularly. the x800xt and 6800Ultra both out perform GT (by lots/not much depending on what test/game you use) but the GT is up to £100 cheaper than these cards.

I would like to point out that you are not buying an underclocked 6800 Ultra when you buy a GT. Yes you can clock it to Ultra speeds but think what the Ultra can be OC'd to  :devil:  Other than that it is single slot solution with quiet cooling (can't hear it even overclocked) and temps are never above high 60s (which is no worse than my old FX5900).

Overall, well pleased :D  Obviously my grin will not be as big as Rons who has just bought an x800XT but I'm Scottish and spent less money ;)
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Doorman on September 14, 2004, 03:00:36 PM
But only £350!  :D
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Anonymous on September 14, 2004, 07:28:39 PM
No I spent £285, the one G-LoJ mentioned is £340.
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Doorman on September 14, 2004, 08:09:46 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Sep 14 2004, 07:28 PM
No I spent £285, the one G-LoJ mentioned is £340.
No, I spent £350  :rolleyes:
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Anonymous on September 14, 2004, 08:28:00 PM
Good price! :D
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Gandalf on September 23, 2004, 03:19:10 PM
well, to completely upgrade my computer (my poor 2700+ is getting on a bit) I decided to go down the amd 64 route.

Opted for

CA-030-LL   Lian-Li PC V1100 Silver Aluminium Midi-Tower (No PSU) (CA-030-LL) x 1
MB-063-AS   Asus A8V Deluxe (Socket 939) Wireless Edition Motherboard (MB-063-AS) x 1
CP-086-AM   AMD Athlon 64 3500 (Socket 939) - Retail (CP-086-AM) x 1
MY-057-CS   Corsair 1GB DDR2 XMS2-5400 Pro TwinX (2x512MB) (MY-057-CS) x 1
HS-017-TR   ThermalRight XP-120 (Socket 754/939/478) Heatsink (HS-017-TR) x 1
FG-008-AK   Akasa AK174CB-4BLB 120mm Blue LED fan (FG-008-AK) x 1
OA-001-AK   Akasa TIM-clean CPU & Heatsink Cleaner (OA-001-AK) x 1
AC-000-GL   GeIL High Performance Copper Thermal Coumpund  (AC-000-GL) x 1


The mobo supports the 64FX chip as well as the standard 64 so I can upgrade the cpu when they get a bit cheaper.

Lan-li case to hopefully quieten down my pc, as with the new gfx card, it's getting very loud. The 120mm cpu fan should help too :)

Benchmarks after the weekend.
Title: This Week Only
Post by: BigFatCat on September 23, 2004, 04:20:54 PM
The blue LEDs in the fan will make it run cooler and faster, definitely.
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Gandalf on September 23, 2004, 04:37:11 PM
hehe, that was the only 120mm fan they had in stock!

and it runs at 2000rpm so should be quiet and is close to the 1700rpm recommended for that heatsink.

anyway, still have the stock amd one that comes with the proc to fall back on if it all goes tits up
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2004, 05:22:25 PM
Nice system GLJ.

Ooooh I think I've come over all jealous :D
Title: This Week Only
Post by: TeaLeaf on September 23, 2004, 06:07:25 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Gandalf-LordOfJelly@Sep 23 2004, 03:19 PM
MB-063-AS  Asus A8V Deluxe (Socket 939) Wireless Edition Motherboard (MB-063-AS) x 1
MY-057-CS  Corsair 1GB DDR2 XMS2-5400 Pro TwinX (2x512MB) (MY-057-CS) x 1
Sounds nice!  But DDR2?  Are you sure?

AFIAA DDR2 does not work on the K8T800 Pro chipset.  And the RAM slots are the wrong shape (184 instead of 240 pin DIMMs).  

Your urgent order check is required, please RSVP.

TL.
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Anonymous on September 23, 2004, 06:29:28 PM
Crucial only shows 184 pin DIMMS for this board

Go here (http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=ASUS%2B+Motherboards&mfr=ASUS&cat=RAM&model=A8V+Deluxe&submit=Go) to see.

and from Asus website:
QuoteMemory - 4 x 184-pin DIMM Sockets support max. 4GB DDR400/DDR333/DDR266 non-ECC un-buffered DDR SDRAM memory
- Dual Channel Memory Architecture
Title: This Week Only
Post by: TeaLeaf on September 23, 2004, 06:32:13 PM
Which is what I was trying ot say in a nice way!  

2 x 512MB 240-pin DDR2 modules will NOT work on a 184-pin motherboard.

GAAAANNDAAAAALF!

TL.
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Gandalf on September 23, 2004, 07:04:20 PM
ahh, well spotted. you know the ram is the one thing I didn't check. just saw ddr ram and added that. DOH!

oh well, I have a gig in my server that can be used for now. will return for replacement the wrong stuff.

thanks for the heads up chaps.
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Gandalf on September 23, 2004, 09:17:09 PM
Memory Module Properties   
Module Name   Corsair CMX512-4000
Serial Number   None
Module Size   512 MB (2 rows, 4 banks)
Module Type   Unbuffered
Memory Type   DDR SDRAM
Memory Speed   PC4000 (250 MHz)
Module Width   64 bit
Module Voltage   SSTL 2.5
Error Detection Method   None
Refresh Rate   Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh
Highest CAS Latency   3.0 (4.0 ns @ 250 MHz)
   
Memory Module Features   
Early RAS# Precharge   Not Supported
Auto-Precharge   Not Supported
Precharge All   Not Supported
Write1/Read Burst   Not Supported
Buffered Address/Control Inputs   Not Supported
Registered Address/Control Inputs   Not Supported
On-Card PLL (Clock)   Not Supported
Buffered DQMB Inputs   Not Supported
Registered DQMB Inputs   Not Supported
Differential Clock Input   Supported
Redundant Row Address   Not Supported
   
Memory Module Manufacturer   
Company Name   Corsair Memory, Inc.
Product Information   http://www.corsairmicro.com/main/products.htm (http://www.corsairmicro.com/main/products.htm)

thats from the server, courtesy of aida. I'll chuck them in for now and swap out the wrong ones with ocuk. thanks for the headsup guys and for the call TL :)
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Gandalf on September 23, 2004, 09:26:58 PM
ok, gonna swap it for this.

Corsair 2GB DDR XMS3200PT TwinX (2x1GB) (MY-039-CS)
A matched pair of 1GB XMS3200PT memory modules - 2GB total - ideal for dual DDR motherboards.

as far as I can tell, that'll be perfect (and leaves me the upgrade path to 4GB) anyone have any objections  :P
Title: This Week Only
Post by: DarkAngel on September 23, 2004, 09:33:29 PM
:angry:  GIT!
Title: This Week Only
Post by: TeaLeaf on September 23, 2004, 09:43:38 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Gandalf-LordOfJelly@Sep 23 2004, 09:26 PM
as far as I can tell, that'll be perfect (and leaves me the upgrade path to 4GB) anyone have any objections  :P
If you are going to do *any* overclocking try to stretch the memory a wee bit faster.  Try PC3500+.  Otherwise the basic PC3200 sticks there will do real well.  

A very very decent alternative is the OCZ 3700 Gold Rev. 3.  The Rev 3 uses *exactly* the same Hynix DIMMs as the OCZ 4000 Gold Rev. 2 currently does, so it is a guaranteed PC4000 speed for 3700 prices, plus overclocking beyond that :D  It is by reputation a mighty overclocker.  Norm, you got any OCZ 3700 Gold Rev 3 you can price up for G-man?

TL.
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Gandalf on September 23, 2004, 10:03:04 PM
tbh, I never bother overclocking anything. I'm content to run it at stock speeds. I used to overclock, but speeds have got insane now that overclocking doesn't really add too much. However, if you have some better memory, so let me know before tomorrow morning as I'll be changing it with them then.
Title: This Week Only
Post by: TeaLeaf on September 23, 2004, 11:46:15 PM
If you are not overclocking then what you have planned will do real well.

TL.
Title: This Week Only
Post by: Norm on September 24, 2004, 12:18:11 AM
Yip £210 which is £19 cheaper than OC's 3500 series. ;)

Now thats good value,lol :)