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Dead Men Walking - Bricks 'n Mortar => Our Server => Topic started by: TeaLeaf on December 26, 2004, 04:19:21 PM

Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on December 26, 2004, 04:19:21 PM
The answer to this question is easy really.  Consider using Hi-Velocity (http://www.hi-velocity.it/) for your ADSL connection.  Here's my trace route to the dMw servers:

QuoteTracing route to 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]:

 1  <1 ms  <1 ms  <1 ms
 2  17 ms  18 ms  17 ms jenna.hi-velocity.net [82.197.70.53]
 3  17 ms  18 ms  17 ms 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]

Trace complete.
Now that's 3 hops to our server on my Hi-Velocity (http://www.hi-velocity.it/) ADSL connection - and remember, the first hop is my ADSL router, the second hop is the ADSL terminator in Redbus (Docklands, London) and the final hop is the dMw server itself. :D

If you are thinking that pings to other servers is important too, not just the dMw server then check out the trace routes at the bottom of this post.

So that's it folks, use Hi-Velocity (http://www.hi-velocity.it/) as your ADSL provider and you'll find you get some stormingly good pings to our servers and the others you play on :thumbsup:  Remember, I am only just eligible for ADSL based on my line quality and distance from the exchange, so if you have a decent connection you may well see better pings.

If you want to see a trace to anywhere else then let me know.

TL.
QuoteOriginally posted by Trace to Jolt servers+-->
QUOTE(Trace to Jolt servers)
Tracing route to clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1  <1 ms  <1 ms  <1 ms  
 2  18 ms  15 ms  17 ms jenna.hi-velocity.net [82.197.70.53]
 3  18 ms  15 ms  17 ms 82-197-65-226.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.226]
 4  17 ms  15 ms  16 ms 82.197.95.90
 5  17 ms  16 ms  18 ms lon1-10.nildram.net [217.79.160.15]
 6  19 ms  16 ms  17 ms lon1-9.nildram.net [195.149.20.130]
 7  16 ms  18 ms  21 ms jolt-gw.nildram.net [195.149.20.126]
 8  17 ms  19 ms  18 ms clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11]

Trace complete.[/b]
QuoteOriginally posted by Trace to BoD server@
Tracing route to 213.208.119.75 over a maximum of 30 hops

 1  <1 ms  <1 ms  <1 ms  
 2  20 ms  15 ms  17 ms jenna.hi-velocity.net [82.197.70.53]
 3  19 ms  17 ms  17 ms 82-197-65-226.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.226]
 4  17 ms  17 ms  17 ms 82.197.95.90
 5  20 ms  18 ms  18 ms lon1-10.nildram.net [217.79.160.15]
 6  16 ms  17 ms  18 ms lon1-9.nildram.net [195.149.20.130]
 7  18 ms  18 ms  18 ms jolt-gw.nildram.net [195.149.20.126]
 8  21 ms  18 ms  18 ms 213.208.119.75

Trace complete.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Whitey on December 26, 2004, 05:37:48 PM
Looking good.  My exchange gets enabled on the 2nd Feb and I'm planning on going with Hi-Velocity  :dribble:
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: smite on December 27, 2004, 12:15:24 PM
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Jamoe on December 27, 2004, 12:45:33 PM
sadly its not the case for everyone on hi-velocity.
QuoteTracing route to 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1  <1 ms  <1 ms  <1 ms 192.168.0.1
 2  21 ms  20 ms  19 ms rdsl-lond-uk02.nw.mediaways.net [62.55.96.197]
 3  19 ms  19 ms  18 ms rmwc-lond-uk02-gigaet-6-1.nw.mediaways.net[62.55.96.9]
 4  18 ms  19 ms  20 ms rmws-lond-uk02-gigaet-0-3-0-0.nw.mediaways.net [195.71.254.21]
 5  58 ms  19 ms  19 ms rmws-lond-uk01-gigaet-0-0-0-0.nw.mediaways.net [213.20.251.237]
 6  20 ms  20 ms  19 ms linx-thn.hotlinks.co.uk [195.66.224.52]
 7  29 ms  27 ms  25 ms 82.197.95.121
 8  25 ms  23 ms  25 ms 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]

Trace complete.
but i still get good pings so narnar
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on December 27, 2004, 01:05:22 PM
Are you connecting via xdsluk or ispnet.com?

TL.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Jamoe on December 30, 2004, 01:32:19 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Dec 27 2004, 01:05 PM
Are you connecting via xdsluk or ispnet.com?

TL.
[post=73114]Quoted post[/post]
[/b]

no idea what they are im afraid?

I was never given an option. Is there anyway I can choose? if so which one is best

cheers :)

EDIT 1:

ok just found out some stuff

http://forum.hi-velocity.net/modules.php?n...viewtopic&t=257 (http://forum.hi-velocity.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=257)

i need to try the user name with xdsluk.

im using the ispnet.com one :)  ill post my results if i can connect using the other :)

EDIT 2:

Ok i have tried using the xdsluk but it fails authentification. Ill contacted hi-V they are looking into it, I'll find out soon enough i suppose :)

EDIT 3:

Ive just found out BT are behind with rolling out xdsluk, it might be later in the new year for me. Ah well.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: smite on December 30, 2004, 05:11:05 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Jamoe@Dec 30 2004, 01:32 PM

EDIT 3:

Ive just found out BT are behind with rolling out xdsluk, it might be later in the new year for me. Ah well.
[post=73398]Quoted post[/post]
[/b]


Bastards mate....BT should suck my cherry plum.......did i say bastards?
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Jamoe on December 31, 2004, 10:36:48 AM
QuoteTracing route to 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1  <1 ms  <1 ms  <1 ms 192.168.0.1
 2  20 ms  21 ms  20 ms jenna.hi-velocity.net [82.197.70.53]
 3  22 ms  21 ms  25 ms 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]

Trace complete.

Pinging 82.197.65.246 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.197.65.246: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=125
Reply from 82.197.65.246: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=125
Reply from 82.197.65.246: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=125
Reply from 82.197.65.246: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=125

Ping statistics for 82.197.65.246:
  Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
  Minimum = 18ms, Maximum = 20ms, Average = 19ms


as you can see my xdsluk realm is working :D

3 hops and 19 ping ohohoh so sweet.

n1 Hi-V
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Anonymous on December 31, 2004, 11:12:12 AM
Not bad for Blueyonder I suppose:

QuoteTraceRoute - Friday, December 31, 2004 11:08:35

Address: 82.197.65.246 - 82.197.65.246
Number of Packets: 1
Packet size: 32
Don't Fragment: No

#1 192.168.1.1: 10 ms
#2 10.125.64.1: 10 ms
#3 gsr01-ed.blueyonder.co.uk (62.31.64.33): 10 ms
#4 194.117.136.138: 20 ms
#5 c4l.xchangepoint.net (217.79.160.68): 80 ms
#6 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net (82.197.65.246): 30 ms

Statistics: Out 6, in 6, loss 0%, times (min/avg/max) 10/26/80 ms

xchangepoint.net is still being a bit of a pain I see but I think TL said that would be fixed in January.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Jamoe on January 03, 2005, 11:59:41 AM
On ispnet.com

QuotePinging 82.197.65.246 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.197.65.246: bytes=32 time=168ms TTL=118
Reply from 82.197.65.246: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=118
Reply from 82.197.65.246: bytes=32 time=168ms TTL=118
Reply from 82.197.65.246: bytes=32 time=165ms TTL=118

Ping statistics for 82.197.65.246:
  Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
  Minimum = 165ms, Maximum = 181ms, Average = 170ms

C:\Documents and Settings\James>tracert 82.197.65.246

Tracing route to 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1  <1 ms  <1 ms  <1 ms 192.168.0.1
 2  145 ms  142 ms  155 ms rdsl-lond-uk02.nw.mediaways.net [62.55.96.197]
 3  119 ms  115 ms  122 ms rmwc-lond-uk02-gigaet-6-1.nw.mediaways.net [62.5
5.96.9]
 4  146 ms  157 ms  152 ms rmws-lond-uk02-gigaet-0-3-0-0.nw.mediaways.net [
195.71.254.21]
 5  171 ms  170 ms  168 ms rmws-lond-uk01-gigaet-0-0-0-0.nw.mediaways.net [
213.20.251.237]
 6  181 ms  164 ms  156 ms linx-thn.hotlinks.co.uk [195.66.224.52]
 7  163 ms  170 ms  166 ms 82.197.95.121
 8  168 ms  165 ms  171 ms 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]

Trace complete.

On xdsluk

QuoteTracing route to 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1  <1 ms  <1 ms  <1 ms 192.168.0.1
 2  128 ms  136 ms  136 ms jenna.hi-velocity.net [82.197.70.53]
 3  132 ms  133 ms  135 ms 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\James>ping 82.197.65.246

Pinging 82.197.65.246 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.197.65.246: bytes=32 time=94ms TTL=125
Reply from 82.197.65.246: bytes=32 time=70ms TTL=125
Reply from 82.197.65.246: bytes=32 time=64ms TTL=125
Reply from 82.197.65.246: bytes=32 time=113ms TTL=125

Ping statistics for 82.197.65.246:
  Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
  Minimum = 64ms, Maximum = 113ms, Average = 85ms

C:\Documents and Settings\James>tracert 82.197.65.246

Tracing route to 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1  <1 ms  <1 ms  <1 ms 192.168.0.1
 2  115 ms  111 ms  112 ms jenna.hi-velocity.net [82.197.70.53]
 3  120 ms  122 ms  121 ms 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]

Trace complete.

worse then my isdn line :(. Although i believe the issue is with BT and not Hi-V, lets hope its fixed soon..
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on January 03, 2005, 01:02:29 PM
Tracing route to 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    11 ms    13 ms    10 ms  10.9.192.1
  3    12 ms    11 ms    11 ms  gsr01-az.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.64.33]
  4    16 ms    14 ms    16 ms  tele1-azt-pos.telewest.net [194.117.136.2]
  5    16 ms    15 ms    16 ms  c4l.xchangepoint.net [217.79.160.68]
  6    16 ms    15 ms    16 ms  82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]

Trace complete.

My Blueyonder trace. Nice!!
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 03, 2005, 03:08:37 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Jamoe@Jan 3 2005, 11:59 AM
worse then my isdn line :(. Although i believe the issue is with BT and not Hi-V, lets hope its fixed soon..
[post=73704]Quoted post[/post]
[/b]
It is indeed a BT problem Jamoe.  BT are currently hiding behind the 'holiday season and nobody is in' excuse.  They will have their collective nuts chewed off by several of the Hi-V Directors tomorrow morning when some semblance of normality returns to BT's 'service'.  When BT fix the realm properly then the problem shoudl disappear and get back to the nice pings I posted at the top of this thread (before BT porked it for everyone).

TL.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 04, 2005, 04:34:03 PM
All core routers were re-booted at last night for firmware and settings changes.  This appeared to improve pings etc, but as a result of clearing those issues up they found the main problem became mroe obvious.  From the Hi-V forums today:
QuoteOriginally posted by "M_a_r_k_o"
Hi All

We have identified a hardware issue with the Carriers core transit router and related infrastructure and are planning on having the issue fully resolved tomorrow.

I will keep you all apprised of any developments as they happen.

Once again please accept my appologies for any inconvenience.

Regards

Mark
They hope to have it fixed by the end of today (Tuesday).  It's been the source of all the variable ping.  I guess we're just 'lucky' ;)

TL.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Jamoe on January 04, 2005, 04:48:25 PM
hurrah, lets all cross our fingers then :).

If pings are back to normal im hoping to introduce a friend to CSS tonight, (TCS style if i can), i would get him on cs/cz but he doesnt have those yet. (probably wont as he is more of a console gamer sadly)

:)
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: A Twig on January 04, 2005, 06:11:48 PM
I had the best pings last night, and I was on BT :D
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: MAD_ness on January 04, 2005, 06:27:59 PM
I always seem to get the best pings when I am on ............usually hovering around the 20 - 30  mark !!!!!!!


good old eclipse  8)



wish smite could have hung on for a while before swapping IP's ....coulda saved all this hassle he's havin' !!!!!   :unsure:
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2005, 07:00:35 PM
This started tonight:

TraceRoute - Tuesday, January 04, 2005 18:57:52
Generated by CyberKit Version 2.5
Copyright © 1996-2000 by Luc Neijens

Address: 82.197.65.246 - 82.197.65.246
Number of Packets: 1
Packet size: 32
Trace Hop 1 through 30
Timeout: 3
Resolve Addresses: No
Don't Fragment: No

#1  (192.168.1.1): TTL Exceeded, ttl=254, 10 ms
#2  (10.125.64.1): TTL Exceeded, ttl=254, 20 ms
#3  (62.31.64.33): TTL Exceeded, ttl=253, 30 ms
#4  (194.117.136.142): TTL Exceeded, ttl=252, 290 ms
#5  (194.117.136.173): TTL Exceeded, ttl=251, 290 ms
#6  (217.79.160.68): TTL Exceeded, ttl=250, 291 ms
#7  (82.197.65.246): Echo Reply, ttl=122, 280 ms

Statistics: Out 7, in 7, loss 0%, times (min/avg/max) 10/173/291 ms


The git at Blueyonder tech support tried to tell me it was a problem with my PC  :lmfao:

Strange how the response at Hop 3 is fine which is BY's GSR in Edinburgh  :)  The problems start in their network at hop 4
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on January 04, 2005, 07:04:07 PM
My Blueyonder trace

Tracing route to 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    11 ms    11 ms    13 ms  10.9.192.1
  3    13 ms    17 ms    11 ms  gsr01-az.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.64.33]
  4    14 ms    19 ms    15 ms  tele1-azt-pos.telewest.net [194.117.136.2]
  5    16 ms    16 ms    19 ms  c4l.xchangepoint.net [217.79.160.68]
  6    16 ms    16 ms    15 ms  82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]

Trace complete.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2005, 08:58:16 PM
Trace from USA to GSR01 in Edinburgh

Hop   IP      Latency
0   161.58.180.113   0
1   161.58.176.129   0
2   161.58.156.140   0
3   129.250.28.206   0
4   129.250.2.39   0
5   129.250.5.86   78
6   129.250.4.28   83
7   129.250.10.222   83
8   62.31.64.33   344


Trace from me through GSR01 in Edinburgh to Meathook

Hop   IP      Latency
2   10.125.64.1   30
3   62.31.64.33   10
4   194.117.136.142   280
5   194.117.136.173   271
6   217.79.160.68   280
7   82.197.65.246   310

Anyone want to guess where the problem lies?  :angry:  I see that BY have now got a fault logged in their system for it. Gits!
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 04, 2005, 10:15:59 PM
From the Hi-Velocity Forums.

TL.
Quote Speed/Ping issues
Posted on Tuesday, January 04 @ 21:36:02 GMT by AndyGreen

news/comments from Hi-Velocity.it We have been working on the current situation for the past 7 days, alongside one of our carriers.

Due to the time of year and that BT have only been running on skeleton staff over the festive period, today was the first decent opportunity to work closely with BT. BT are now heavily involved, and the issue escalated to the highest point.

A fault has been identified between BT and our carrier. This fault is being worked on, and we will have an update at midday tomorrow (Wednesday 5th Jan).

If at this point, we believe a resolution is more than 10 working days away we will commence a systematic migration of all affected users onto a new network at our own expense.

We see this as a last resort and the carrier we are working with at the moment is running at 25% capacity on their BT Central. This, therefore, indicates a high-level networking issue as opposed to a capacity issue.

Hi-Velocity appreciates your patience and under-standing during this time and will, as always endeavour to resolve this issue to a speedy and satisfactory result.

Mark Barber - Technical Director - Hi-Velocity
Anthony Bennett - Sales Director - Hi-Velocity
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2005, 10:48:02 PM
Yay sorted :)

#1  (192.168.1.1): TTL Exceeded, ttl=254, 10 ms
#2  (10.125.64.1): TTL Exceeded, ttl=254, 10 ms
#3  (62.31.64.33): TTL Exceeded, ttl=253, 10 ms
#4  (194.117.136.138): TTL Exceeded, ttl=252, 30 ms
#5  (217.79.160.68): TTL Exceeded, ttl=251, 20 ms
#6  (82.197.65.246): Echo Reply, ttl=123, 30 ms

Statistics: Out 6, in 6, loss 0%, times (min/avg/max) 10/18/30 ms
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: smite on January 05, 2005, 05:51:21 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by MAD_ness@Jan 4 2005, 06:27 PM
I always seem to get the best pings when I am on ............usually hovering around the 20 - 30  mark !!!!!!!
good old eclipse  8)
wish smite could have hung on for a while before swapping IP's ....coulda saved all this hassle he's havin' !!!!!  :unsure:
[post=73814]Quoted post[/post]
[/b]

One day i will learn to wait.





After a fairly bad day yesterday i went home deciding that if my connection still wasn't up and running someone was getting it in the neck at BT.. . a phone call to Mark at HV explaining my frustration at being pissed about by BT and would he kindly give me a number to get hold of someone. He was also quite annoyed after hearing the full story and decided to call them himself and lay some colourful language at there feet. As of today im up and running.

The connection is very ropey as stated for the above reasons.
Come on Mark kick em in the nuts.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 05, 2005, 08:17:08 PM
This is what I like about Hi-V.  When there is a problem you can talk to real people who _do_ give a damn and will try to solve the problem.  Hot news from their forums tonight:

TL.
QuoteOriginally posted by Hi-Velocity
Speed/Ping issues

UPDATE @ 20:00 - 5th Jan 05

We have been carrying out extensive testing with our carrier today and have discovered a hardware issue. Replacement Hardware has been delivered ready for testing tomorrow AM. Once the testing has been completed, the replacement hardware will be installed. This should alleviate the speed/ping issues. At this time, our carrier will also review some aspects of their network to provide improved performance.

Mark Barber - Hi-Velocity Support Director will be on site at our carriers premises for both the Hardware installation and the network review.

If this still does not fix the problem, then we will start the systematic migration of users. This will then resolve the issues.

More updates when we have them.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: smite on January 05, 2005, 08:24:38 PM
For the people not on HV here's why i get 250 ping:

Ping statistics for 82.197.65.246:
    Packets: Sent = 1095, Received = 1054, Lost = 41 (3% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 29ms, Maximum = 433ms, Average = 277ms

Roll on tomorrow :D
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Benny on January 06, 2005, 01:53:44 PM
Please say you aren't paying full whack for that service yet?
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 06, 2005, 02:24:15 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Benny@Jan 6 2005, 01:53 PM
Please say you aren't paying full whack for that service yet?
[post=73982]Quoted post[/post]
[/b]
There's a choice in a contractual agreement?  

I think you'll find that this is covered in their contract (as with every other ISP).  You pay the contractual amount and you'll not be able to riggle out of it!  Â£23.99pm for a 1Mbps connection is still pretty good though especially when the people actually do try to help out and get problems resolved - especially in this case as the problem isn't their own but one of their carrier's.

TL.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on January 06, 2005, 02:25:01 PM
Good to see you back Smite, heres hoping its all sorted out soon!!
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Benny on January 06, 2005, 02:47:07 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Jan 6 2005, 03:24 PM
There's a choice in a contractual agreement?

I think you'll find that this is covered in their contract (as with every other ISP). You pay the contractual amount and you'll not be able to riggle out of it! £23.99pm for a 1Mbps connection is still pretty good though especially when the people actually do try to help out and get problems resolved - especially in this case as the problem isn't their own but one of their carrier's.

TL.
[post=73988]Quoted post[/post]
[/b]

Ah, fair enough. When I was with NTL, I complained to a number of people about the performance, although admittedly there was a total of around 24 hours one month where the service was down hard, and the refunded me 3 months rental.

You don't ask, you don't get I suppose.

Seems harsh to switch and then find the service is poor, irrrespective of whose fault it is. Others seem to be ok though, so I'll wind my neck back in.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 06, 2005, 03:08:26 PM
HI-VELOCITY UPDATE:
Just got off MSN with Hi-V's Sales Director.  Apparently the initial testing of the new hardware has gone reasonably well this morning and they plan to cut over to the new equipment at about 4.30pm this afternoon to see if it makes the hoped for difference.  If it does not then Hi-V are going to arrange alternate routing for us to totally avoid the problem.  If they re-route us it will cost them a fair bit of money, so let's hope the hardware fix works for them.

TL.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Jamoe on January 06, 2005, 05:01:18 PM
im at work so i cant test anything. Has the new hardware made any difference ?
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: smite on January 06, 2005, 05:26:45 PM
16:55:
Ping statistics for 82.197.65.246:
    Packets: Sent = 453, Received = 436, Lost = 17 (3% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 22ms, Maximum = 200ms, Average = 33ms


17:24:
Ping statistics for 82.197.65.246:
    Packets: Sent = 213, Received = 207, Lost = 6 (2% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 21ms, Maximum = 67ms, Average = 30ms
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2005, 05:38:16 PM
Gettin better thar boy!
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: smite on January 06, 2005, 05:40:24 PM
Aye looks like there half way there.

Just lose the loss and it is dandy :D

17:39
Ping statistics for 82.197.65.246:
    Packets: Sent = 133, Received = 130, Lost = 3 (2% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 24ms, Maximum = 45ms, Average = 29ms
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2005, 05:48:07 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by smite@Jan 6 2005, 05:40 PM
Just lose the loss
that would be a good line in a song :)
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 06, 2005, 06:06:22 PM
HI-VELOCITY UPDATE:

Just spoke to Ant again.  The cutover to the newly configured  hardware did not solve all of the issues so it has been extracted and they will be having another go at a cutover to it again tomorrow morning.

TL.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 07, 2005, 07:14:28 AM
Hi-V changed some of the configuration settings (inc MTU) at 06:00hrs this morning and we await their report on the impact of these changes.  

As far as I can tell from PingPlotter this has dropped my minimum ping back down to normal levels (15ms) but the ping still spikes upwards occassionally so clearly there is more work to do.  We await further feedback.

TL.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 07, 2005, 08:13:55 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Hi-Velocity
Speed / Ping Issues Update 07/01/2005 20:00

Antho writes "Following another full day on site with our carrier the situation is now as follows.

There are 2 network upgrades / card changes planned, the first of these will take place at 5am tomorrow (Saturday 8th January). This should alleviate issues for certain users.

The second cannot be carried out until 11am Monday 10th Jan due to a needed part not arriving with us until 9am Monday.

This should see user issues resolved.

As a precaution I have also today requested the MAC codes for the 600 or so affected users, I will have these by Wednesday 12th Jan, so should we need to, we can start the migration process.

We appologise for the lack of information today, and that this issue will not be resolved in time to give you all the weekend surfing experience that you crave and deserve. We will update you tomorrow with the result of tomorrow mornings work then again on Monday. Once again we would like to thank you all for your patience and understanding.

Anthony Bennett - Sales Director
Mark Barber - Technical Director"
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: smite on January 08, 2005, 10:22:37 AM
Ping statistics for 82.197.65.244:
    Packets: Sent = 2284, Received = 2244, Lost = 40 (1% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 20ms, Maximum = 252ms, Average = 68ms


Bugger :(
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 08, 2005, 11:14:04 AM
Tracing route to 82-197-65-244.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.244]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  
  2    58 ms    55 ms    63 ms  jenna.hi-velocity.net [82.197.70.53]
  3    53 ms    60 ms    68 ms  82-197-65-244.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.244]

Trace complete.

Tracing route to 82-197-65-244.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.244]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  
  2    84 ms    77 ms    81 ms  jenna.hi-velocity.net [82.197.70.53]
  3    74 ms    85 ms    77 ms  82-197-65-244.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.244]

Trace complete.

Tracing route to 82-197-65-244.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.244]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  
  2    27 ms    29 ms    25 ms  jenna.hi-velocity.net [82.197.70.53]
  3    29 ms    27 ms    31 ms  82-197-65-244.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.244]

Trace complete.

Still somewhat variable but defintely better than last night.

TL.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Jamoe on January 09, 2005, 10:31:05 PM
sadly this problem has kept me from playing online over the last week or so. Lets hope you will al be seeing my ugly behind tomorrow night on the hook :)

I have attempted to play but its like playing with 56k on steroids.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Jamoe on January 10, 2005, 03:45:46 PM
Quote Speed / Ping Issues Update 10/01/2005 14:50

Antho writes "There will be a series of outages this afternoon (no more that 5 and for no longer than 3 minutes each) As we move all customers over to the new fibre which has now been run. Once this has been completed we will have a clearer picture as to where we are. We regret that this work has to be done during business hours

Anthony Bennett - Sales Director"

Update from the goings on at Hi-V.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 10, 2005, 06:40:28 PM
An update to the update.

TL.
QuoteOriginally posted by Hi-Velocity
Speed / Ping Issues Update 10/01/2005 18.20

Antho writes "Our first planned upgrade (the Gig fibre link) to our carrier, has not gone to plan. The fibre was run and is fine, however there was an issue with our Foundry Bigiron 15000 switch communicating with our carriers Cisco switch. This is not something that we have seen happen before and therefore was completely unexpected. We have logged the issue with Foundry and expect their feedback tonight. Depending on the feedback received and the time that we receive it, we may re attempt this upgrade tonight. Failing that it will be tomorrow morning. The second phase of our planned upgrade at our end will go ahead within the next hour and will result in 2 minutes downtime across the entire platform. This however on its own will not resolve the speed / ping issues.

Based on the feedback from Foundry and the upgrade going ahead on our carrier link in the next 24hrs we will then, if necessary start the migration process.

Anthony Bennett - Sales Director
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: smite on January 10, 2005, 06:44:09 PM
Currently crying about update.

Get net back........And it's all buggered up :(


On a lighter note i am now awsome at the griffinRUN.com banner on the gametiger site.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 11, 2005, 08:57:35 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Hi-Velocity
Speed / Ping Issues Update 11/01/2005 20.40

Today our carrier taken further steps to resolve this issue. During the upgrades mentioned below, some other issues have been identified. The ETA for complete and final resolution of this problem is Friday 14th January.

Whilst we appreciate that this may not satisfy all customers, we would like to thank you all for bearing with us during this difficult time.

We will update you when we have any more information for you.

Anthony Bennett, Sales Director - Hi-Velocity
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: smite on January 12, 2005, 08:15:54 PM
QuotePing / Speed Issues Update 12/01/05 19:55

Antho writes "Firstly my appologies for the delay in updating you. For the last two days we have been close to having the full news, however we didn't want to announce anything before we had a solution in place with our carrier.

We can confirm that a fully working solution is due to be in place by this coming Friday. This is a process that Hi-Velocity have been heavily involved with.

We have upgraded numerous parts of our network over the last week with severeal new fibre links going into place, in an attempt to alleviate packet loss/ping/speed issues. Once all this was complete and we had proven that our network was in no way at fault our carrier escalated the problem further within BT. It would appear that their BT Central Pipe capacity was running at maximum (maxing out from about 11am most days). This was particulary unusual as their Central Pipes were running at 1/3rd of the BT recommended number of users.

A New STM4 (622 Mbps BT Central Pipe) is due next month. In the interim Hi-Velocity have been instrumental in negotiating a deal whereby our affected carrier will lease some BT Central Pipe capacity from another of our platform providers. We will be handing this off to our carrier across our fibre network backbone. Traffic will immediately be loadbalanced across this extra BT Central Pipe capacity, giving plenty of headroom whislt we wait for BT to complete installation of the new STM4.

We have had to wait until now to deliver the full verdict and fix as this is a complex commercial and technical solution.

Whilst we did state that we would commence migrations of affected customers it became clear that this process would take longer than the proposed fix, and would therefore have proved worthless. We came to a decision that it was in the best interest of our customers to pursue this resolve.

We appreciate your patience and look forward to Friday as I am sure you all will!

Anthony Bennett - Sales Director
Mark Barber - Technical Director"
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 13, 2005, 07:09:42 AM
At which point I will make an immediate return to the TCS CZ servers.

TL.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Jamoe on January 13, 2005, 07:29:33 AM
i did try last night but it got silly so gave up.

heres looking forward to friday
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 14, 2005, 03:01:16 PM
3pm and still looking good :D

Tracing route to 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  
  2    17 ms    17 ms    16 ms  jenna.hi-velocity.net [82.197.70.53]
  3    30 ms    19 ms    17 ms  82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]

Let's hope this is finally sorted - you may even see me on the server this afternoon :D

TL.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Jamoe on January 14, 2005, 06:09:02 PM
hmm, have u spoken too soon. all my pings are in the 150+ regions :(
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: smite on January 14, 2005, 06:38:21 PM
QuoteSpeed/Ping Issues Update 14/01/2005

Unfortunately I am the bearer of yet more bad news. It could be worse however it is by no means the news that I wanted to be giving you. The tunnel between the two providers in order to provide the BT Central Capacity is up and running. A test connection over this tunnel has also been established, however as with all things nowadays there is one company that likes to throw a spanner in the works. BT. Contrary to the timescale they had previously given us, they cannot reroute the relevant realm onto the new capacity until Monday at 14:30pm. This is due to the way in which their network updates. Unfortunately this means that there will be no relief on the amount of traffic being sent down this Central until that time. The news is a big blow to us as we had been told that we would have a fix in place by now.
The only encouragement that we can take and give you is that he physical connection between the two companies is up, running and tested. At 14:30 on Monday one realm will be moved to the new capacity.

None of our customers will experience any downtime when this happens.

Once again my sincerest appologies.

Anthony Bennett - Depressed Sales Director

I am now getting pissed off.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Jamoe on January 14, 2005, 08:02:28 PM
aye its getting annoying. Probably mroe so becaue theres not much w can do about it.

Migrating doesnt appear to be wise as Hi-V seem to be a very reliable (in the past) and worthy provider.  What else can we do but wait?

(My size 10 Vans are awaiting instructions, wheres the nearest BT CEO? ;) )
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: smite on January 14, 2005, 08:28:19 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Jamoe@Jan 14 2005, 08:02 PM
(My size 10 Vans are awaiting instructions, wheres the nearest BT CEO? ;) )
[post=74893]Quoted post[/post]
[/b]


LOL i was going to put VANS but didn't think people would know what they are :D

If you get there before i do don't move lets see if we can get both 10 and 11's in :D


Oldie could be a supstitute though ;) .....Sorry oldie kiddin
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: A Twig on January 17, 2005, 03:09:56 PM
how can you have a size 10 commercial vehicle???  <_<
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 17, 2005, 03:48:22 PM
3.45pm - the update should have gone through at 2.30pm today, so here's a tracert to clarity.  It seems good and is certianly better than normal for this time of day during the 'crisis' period.

TL.
QuoteTracing route to clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1  <1 ms  <1 ms  <1 ms  
 2  19 ms  20 ms  22 ms jenna.hi-velocity.net [82.197.70.53]
 3  36 ms  37 ms  31 ms 82-197-65-226.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.226]
 4  24 ms  23 ms  21 ms 82.197.95.90
 5  21 ms  23 ms  20 ms lon1-10.nildram.net [217.79.160.15]
 6  22 ms  23 ms  20 ms 84.12.225.130
 7  33 ms  21 ms  22 ms jolt-gw.nildram.net [195.149.20.126]
 8  27 ms  26 ms  29 ms clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11]

Trace complete.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Jamoe on January 17, 2005, 04:18:08 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Jan 17 2005, 03:48 PM
3.45pm - the update should have gone through at 2.30pm today, so here's a tracert to clarity. It seems good and is certianly better than normal for this time of day during the 'crisis' period.

TL.
[post=75092]Quoted post[/post]
[/b]

that does look good :)

ill update this post when i get home and do some "testing" ;)
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: smite on January 17, 2005, 04:42:06 PM
Not yet..............
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: JB on January 17, 2005, 05:22:17 PM
Can we rename this thread 'how not to get the lowest ping to the dMw servers'   :narnar:

Edit:  Spelling.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Vincentvega on January 17, 2005, 07:54:51 PM
just dont get your adsl from high velocity :blink:
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Jamoe on January 17, 2005, 08:23:46 PM
QuotePinging 82.197.65.246 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.197.65.246: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=125
Reply from 82.197.65.246: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=125
Reply from 82.197.65.246: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=125
Reply from 82.197.65.246: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=125

Ping statistics for 82.197.65.246:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 19ms, Maximum = 23ms, Average = 21ms

Tracing route to 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 22 ms 24 ms 21 ms jenna.hi-velocity.net [82.197.70.53]
3 26 ms 23 ms 22 ms 82-197-65-246.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.246]

Trace complete.

Pinging clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=57
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=57
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=57
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=57

Ping statistics for 195.149.21.11:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 20ms, Maximum = 24ms, Average = 21ms

Tracing route to clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 22 ms 21 ms 25 ms jenna.hi-velocity.net [82.197.70.53]
3 23 ms 21 ms 27 ms 82-197-65-226.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.226]
4 22 ms 22 ms 26 ms ge-loop.tengu.rb-mer.c4l.co.uk [82.197.95.90]
5 26 ms 26 ms 24 ms lon1-10.nildram.net [217.79.160.15]
6 23 ms 25 ms 24 ms 84.12.225.130
7 27 ms 24 ms 25 ms jolt-gw.nildram.net [195.149.20.126]
8 23 ms 26 ms 26 ms clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11]

Trace complete.

well i dont think i can complain with my Hi-V pings :P
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: smite on January 17, 2005, 08:40:31 PM
Quote 1  <1 ms  <1 ms  <1 ms 192.168.7.1
 2  26 ms  20 ms  312 ms jenna.hi-velocity.net [82.197.70.53]
 3  23 ms  23 ms  23 ms 82-197-65-226.hi-velocity.net [82.197.65.226]
 4  22 ms  24 ms  21 ms ge-loop.tengu.rb-mer.c4l.co.uk [82.197.95.90]
 5  26 ms  23 ms  24 ms lon1-10.nildram.net [217.79.160.15]
 6  24 ms  32 ms  22 ms 84.12.225.130
 7  24 ms  23 ms  26 ms jolt-gw.nildram.net [195.149.20.126]
 8  25 ms  24 ms  25 ms clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11]


Ahh the bliss of speed :D

QuoteYour line speed:

1002.5 Kbps

122.9 K bytes/sec


QuotePing statistics for 82.197.65.246:
  Packets: Sent = 14, Received = 14, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
  Minimum = 21ms, Maximum = 26ms, Average = 23ms
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Whitey on January 18, 2005, 11:40:13 AM
I'll be ordering ADSL before the end of next week and had been planning to use Hi-V.  I just hope they've got the performance sorted as there still seems to be some issues according to the Hi-V forum  :(
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: tugs on January 18, 2005, 12:43:27 PM
I'll say this much - whether this has peed off those on Hi-V, having an actual named person updating the customers in detail at every stage of the game is better than most I've seen. I could almost hear the tears in Mark's eyes when the friday fix was deferred to Monday...

Watching the saga unfold has been highly entertaining. I'm on the edge of my seat with excitement waiting to hear that it has been a success for all the dMw users.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Anonymous on January 18, 2005, 12:54:39 PM
Although I'm not with Hi-V I was watching what went on and the way things unfolded. I must say that I don't think I have ever seen an ISP handle a situation like that better. Much praise to them.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 21, 2005, 02:19:37 PM
The final changes have gone through.  At least, I hope they are the final changes.

My connection is currently looking clean as a whistle with a nice 22ms ping to the server.

TL.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Jamoe on January 21, 2005, 03:25:12 PM
Same applies to me.

I may even get to play CS tonight after all :)
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: smite on January 21, 2005, 04:39:36 PM
Strangely mine havn't been to bad the last 2 days.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2005, 08:56:43 PM
Mine is crud tonight. I'm running a pingplotter trace and it's sitting solidly over 100ms for last 10 mins :(

It's been like that all night but only started tracing 10 mins ago after match - all other hops on route are sub 30ms

B"I'm hacked off"B
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: smite on January 21, 2005, 09:18:58 PM
Mine was better last night.
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2005, 11:55:12 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by smite@Jan 21 2005, 09:18 PM
Mine was better last night.
[post=75500]Quoted post[/post]
[/b]
You I am not talking to ;)
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2005, 03:26:19 PM
Ping time finally fixed this afternoon :)

I just hope this is the end of the HiV saga and we can get on with gaming now :)
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Whitey on February 01, 2005, 09:47:29 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by whitey@Jan 18 2005, 11:40 AM
I'll be ordering ADSL before the end of next week and had been planning to use Hi-V. I just hope they've got the performance sorted as there still seems to be some issues according to the Hi-V forum :(
[post=75149]Quoted post[/post]
[/b]

I wasn't able to pre-order last week, but I have now and my exchange get's enabled tomorrow  :dribble:   :woot2:

I just hope it's live before the weekend  :whistle:
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Whitey on February 08, 2005, 04:53:49 PM
It works!!!  :D

Now on 1MB Hi-Velocity and can't believe the difference ( just downloaded 39MB update in few minutes ). Get online later cause I want to see what CZ is like with a good connection  :clap:  :woot2:  :rumpy:  :thumbsup:
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Anonymous on February 08, 2005, 04:58:49 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by whitey@Feb 8 2005, 04:53 PM
Get online later cause I want to see what CZ is like with a good connection
[post=76658]Quoted post[/post]
[/b]
You were enough of a problem on dial up. You'll be a nightmare now :(

;)
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: OldBloke on February 08, 2005, 05:35:11 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Feb 8 2005, 04:58 PM
You were enough of a problem on dial up. You'll be a nightmare now :(

;)
[post=76659]Quoted post[/post]
[/b]


Weeeeee'ree Dooooooooomed
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Barley on April 16, 2005, 09:38:33 PM
1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  . [192.168.2.1]
  2    12 ms    11 ms    11 ms  195.10.119.89
  3    13 ms    13 ms    12 ms  195.10.122.77
  4    14 ms    13 ms    14 ms  195.10.122.113
  5    14 ms    14 ms    13 ms  195.10.122.114
  6    20 ms    21 ms    20 ms  s4-0-20.if-cr02.cix.gxn.net [195.226.33.169]
  7    24 ms    22 ms    22 ms  228.33.226.195.ha.cix.gxn.net [195.226.33.228]
  8    28 ms    27 ms    27 ms  g0-2.th23.core.rtr.gxn.net [62.72.156.106]
  9    31 ms    30 ms    27 ms  gb3-0-llb-x-many.th29.core.rtr.gxn.net [194.143.
163.134]
 10    27 ms    28 ms    29 ms  e31-gw1-uk.cableinet.net [195.66.224.34]
 11    27 ms    31 ms    25 ms  194.117.136.174
 12    27 ms    29 ms    26 ms  telewest.transit.as25369.net [194.117.147.66]
 13    27 ms    27 ms    28 ms  access.to.my.anus.is-denied.co.uk [195.20.108.89
]

Trace complete.


OMG how many hop things???  Still get a nice connection though..
Title: How to get the lowest ping to our servers!
Post by: Jamoe on April 16, 2005, 11:22:39 PM
Quoteaccess.to.my.anus.is-denied.co.uk

lol...