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Old Server Admin Section => Archived Topics => Admin - TCS Admins => Topic started by: TeaLeaf on January 01, 2005, 08:08:14 PM

Poll
Question: Should we move the dMw Community to being formally based on CZ rather than CS1.6?
Option 1: votes: 0
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 01, 2005, 08:08:14 PM
It's an easy question.  Please pick one of the two answers.

TL.
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Anonymous on January 01, 2005, 08:14:20 PM
I voted yes. However, I think we need to make sure that the majority of people have it. I know that the 2 guys from DN and HU that were on Homer the other night dont have it and they have only just joined registered with us.  

If the vote to change gets the thumbs up then it might be best to announce that at some date (which you will define) we will move across to CZ - we could give people say 2 months warning or something. I know that sounds a bit woolly but it gives people a chance to get CZ.
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: OldBloke on January 01, 2005, 08:30:44 PM
I voted 'YES'.
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Squonk on January 01, 2005, 08:45:23 PM
Yes from me
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 01, 2005, 08:50:29 PM
I voted Yes too.  And yes, I think if we vote for CZ then it would be sensible to give a period of notice.  But it shouldn't take them 2 months to get CZ even on narrowband ;)

In point of fact, I actually discussed those chaps you mentioned with OB before we decided to put out this poll, so they were and will be considered.

TL.
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Dr Sadako on January 01, 2005, 09:44:56 PM
Yes.
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: smilodon on January 01, 2005, 10:12:27 PM
Yep, but we need to keep some sort of CS 1.6 server running for the matches we play and any practice seesions don't we?

Also rather than just drop CS 1.6 in one fell swoop, why not give a couple of months notice of the droppong of one CS 1.6 server and then a month or two's notice of dropping the other.
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: OldBloke on January 01, 2005, 10:51:17 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by smilodon@Jan 1 2005, 10:12 PM
Yep, but we need to keep some sort of CS 1.6 server running for the matches we play and any practice seesions don't we?

Also rather than just drop CS 1.6 in one fell swoop, why not give a couple of months notice of the droppong of one CS 1.6 server and then a month or two's notice of dropping the other.
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One step at a time. :)

If we decide to move to CZ then we will decide the best way to implement that change.
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 01, 2005, 10:53:38 PM
Seems pretty conclusive so far.  8-0 in favour of CZ to date.  Only a few more peeps to vote.

TL.
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: JonnyAppleSeed on January 01, 2005, 11:33:18 PM
Just a thought .. :eyebrow: ...

steam says....

1260    counter strike servers
186     CZ servers
834     Source servers

I did a *yes* vote but counterstrike still has a lot of support
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Anonymous on January 02, 2005, 12:22:40 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by JonnyAppleSeed@Jan 1 2005, 11:33 PM
Just a thought .. :eyebrow: ...

steam says....

1260  counter strike servers
186   CZ servers
834   Source servers

I did a *yes* vote but counterstrike still has a lot of support
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That's quite a number of Source servers!
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Dr Sadako on January 02, 2005, 10:03:29 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by JonnyAppleSeed@Jan 2 2005, 01:33 AM
Just a thought .. :eyebrow: ...

steam says....

1260  counter strike servers
186   CZ servers
834   Source servers

I did a *yes* vote but counterstrike still has a lot of support
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Is that for Europe or the entire world?
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Squonk on January 02, 2005, 10:18:58 AM
Info only:

World server totals

24800 CS
6592   CSS
1690   CZ

ISH :)
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Anonymous on January 02, 2005, 10:22:04 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by squonk@Jan 2 2005, 10:18 AM
Info only:

World server totals

24800 CS
6592  CSS
1690  CZ

ISH :)
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So many servers! So little time :(

But who needs time when the only servers you need are at deadmen.co.uk :D
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 02, 2005, 10:24:49 AM
I like the idea of being a bigger fish in a smaller pond ;)

TL.
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Anonymous on January 02, 2005, 10:26:44 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Jan 2 2005, 10:24 AM
I like the idea of being a bigger fish in a smaller pond ;)

TL.
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Cue song...

Whale meet again, don't know where, don't know when..

//me slinks off to get coat laugh madly
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Gh0st Face Killah on January 04, 2005, 10:59:55 AM
Yes from me too.
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: TeaLeaf on January 04, 2005, 11:20:23 AM
11-0.

I consider this vote clozed. ;)

A wording will be drafted and issued in due course after OB and I have discussed tactics.

TL.
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2005, 12:09:29 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Jan 4 2005, 11:20 AM
A wording will be drafted and issued in due course after OB and I have discussed tactics.
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Smoke right and HE to the bombsite does it every time for me :)
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: OldBloke on January 04, 2005, 08:10:40 PM
Next steps ...

I propose a BIG BANG cutover to CZ with a completion date of Sat 8th Jan 2005. That's this coming weekend.

Why the rush? Why not? By forcing the issue early we can get members to update their availability knowing we're only playing CZ matches and let's face it, no one's interested in CS1.6 so why delay? This is the new broom, the kick up the TANGO the membership needs to get excited about playing on the servers again.

Server changes:

'The MeatHook' (27015) will become our main password-protected TCS CZ server.
Homer (27016) will become our second password-protected TCS CZ server.
Baldric (27017) will become our CZ match server.
Razer (27018) will be our public CZ server loaded with stats and as many bells and whistles you can shake a stick at.

Boomer (27019) will be shutdown until VALVe fix the memory leak which results in servers grinding to a halt if not rebooted every couple of days. <_<

A note about Razer. TeaLeaf and I are in agreement that all Bravos and Charlies *must* play in TCS style on our public server. It makes little sense to advertise dMw as a badge of teamwork only for our guests to be treated to the sight of a bunch of members running around as fragwhores. I will also be attempting to tailor the stats to reward teamplay. Limited admin rights will also be handed to a selected group. We must make an effort to use our public server as much as possible but it's essential that we move over to our community servers sometime before 9pm. This will keep the TCS community playing and, hopefully, will also entice those guests we leave behind to sign up to continue the action.
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Dr Sadako on January 04, 2005, 09:47:46 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by OldBloke@Jan 4 2005, 10:10 PM
Next steps ...

I propose a BIG BANG cutover to CZ with a completion date of Sat 8th Jan 2005. That's this coming weekend.

Why the rush? Why not? By forcing the issue early we can get members to update their availability knowing we're only playing CZ matches and let's face it, no one's interested in CS1.6 so why delay? This is the new broom, the kick up the TANGO the membership needs to get excited about playing on the servers again.

Server changes:

'The MeatHook' (27015) will become our main password-protected TCS CZ server.
Homer (27016) will become our second password-protected TCS CZ server.
Baldric (27017) will become our CZ match server.
Razer (27018) will be our public CZ server loaded with stats and as many bells and whistles you can shake a stick at.

Boomer (27019) will be shutdown until VALVe fix the memory leak which results in servers grinding to a halt if not rebooted every couple of days. <_<

A note about Razer. TeaLeaf and I are in agreement that all Bravos and Charlies *must* play in TCS style on our public server. It makes little sense to advertise dMw as a badge of teamwork only for our guests to be treated to the sight of a bunch of members running around as fragwhores. I will also be attempting to tailor the stats to reward teamplay. Limited admin rights will also be handed to a selected group. We must make an effort to use our public server as much as possible but it's essential that we move over to our community servers sometime before 9pm. This will keep the TCS community playing and, hopefully, will also entice those guests we leave behind to sign up to continue the action.
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Good call. I don't agree with you regarding enforcing TCS on the public servers but I will support it as you think it is the way to go.
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2005, 10:25:37 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Dr Sadako@Jan 4 2005, 09:47 PM
Good call. I don't agree with you regarding enforcing TCS on the public servers but I will support it as you think it is the way to go.
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I don't see how we can afford NOT to enforce TCS on the public servers. The aim is to show people our style of play and that is why we are all here after all.

As the servers are a cost to our community I don't see why we should pay to offer people yet another public server, there are hundreds out there already. I have no problem paying to show people how TCS is played and I hope it will attract more good people :)
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Dr Sadako on January 04, 2005, 10:57:51 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Jan 5 2005, 12:25 AM
I don't see how we can afford NOT to enforce TCS on the public servers. The aim is to show people our style of play and that is why we are all here after all.

As the servers are a cost to our community I don't see why we should pay to offer people yet another public server, there are hundreds out there already. I have no problem paying to show people how TCS is played and I hope it will attract more good people :)
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I just want to clarify that the option of choice was what I was after. I can choose to play TCS even if there isn't a rule. 90% of the time I play TCS on the BoD servers as well. I think a recommendation instead of a "you must" is a better way to go.
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2005, 11:01:01 PM
//Me checks which forum I'm in - ah, Admin. Good!

OK I guess it's to cater for people like DA etc who will use any excuse to avoid playing in a TCS style. If we enforce it he can't do it :)
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: OldBloke on January 04, 2005, 11:12:37 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Jan 4 2005, 11:01 PM
//Me checks which forum I'm in - ah, Admin. Good!

OK I guess it's to cater for people like DA etc who will use any excuse to avoid playing in a TCS style. If we enforce it he can't do it :)
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 :rolleyes: Well spotted.
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Dr Sadako on January 04, 2005, 11:21:57 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Jan 5 2005, 01:01 AM
//Me checks which forum I'm in - ah, Admin. Good!

OK I guess it's to cater for people like DA etc who will use any excuse to avoid playing in a TCS style. If we enforce it he can't do it :)
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Ever hear of admin slap or rcon kick? :devil:

We need our fun as well  :whistle:
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Doorman on January 04, 2005, 11:28:17 PM
Good work! CS.1.6 R.I.P. It was a good servant who's time had come. Let's hope that CS:Source grows up to be as good. In the meantime CZ deserves all our support. I must say I'm cheered by the 'must play TCS' aspect. Unfortunately, this will mean you'll see me on the servers more.  :ph34r:

 :blush:  There's a 't' in unfortunately.
Title: CZ or CS
Post by: Anonymous on January 05, 2005, 12:36:14 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Jan 4 2005, 11:28 PM
Unfortunately, this will mean you'll see me on the servers more. :ph34r:
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Well that's bloody good news in my book Ron :D