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Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: A Twig on February 11, 2005, 05:14:26 PM
/rant

Never have I been so utterly disgusted with the british press in my entire life. What on earth gives some scummy sub editor the right to headline the Daily Sport tabloid with "OLD GITS TO WED".
What on earth gives Julie Birchill (writing for the Times) the ancestral and genetic knowledge to be able to refer to the Windsors as "a bunch of inbred, bone-headed knuckle draggers."  As she rants on about the Divine right of kings being an insult to the protestant national church, she fails to realise that the monarchy do not claim that, nor is the monarch the actual head of the Church - instead the monarch is the supreme governer. Effectively therefore, the monarch's job is simply to constitutionally protect the church, and the monarch has now power over the Church.
I am all for freedom of speech, and the ability to express one's views, but is there really such a need to do it in such a crass, ignorant and ultimately ignorant way??
Whether you are a republican or a monarchist, pro or anti the union, the man wanted to marry C.P.B. from the start, and should have been allowed to do so. He isn't even going to get the satisfaction of being King for very long with the rate Elizabeth is still flying around at.
Yes they are in the public eye, yes it will be a public wedding, and yes there will be national commentary on everything involved, from flowers to dresses, but can we not refer to the future Princess Consort as having a face like "Iggy Pop's bum" in the national press, and accept the fact that all this should have been done from the start, and let them get on with it.
/rant

Sorry for all that but really needed to get it off my chest...
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2005, 05:31:21 PM
Don't forget they're all Germans too! ;)  :devil:

(the British royal family changed their last name from Saxe-Coburg-Gotha to Windsor in 1917)
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: A Twig on February 11, 2005, 05:35:23 PM
True, but then the last English king was back in the 1600s no??
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2005, 05:36:56 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by A Twig@Feb 11 2005, 05:35 PM
True, but then the last English king was back in the 1600s no??
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The last truly English King of England was Harold in 1066!
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: A Twig on February 11, 2005, 05:44:53 PM
No, the Tudors were English. The stuarts who came next were Scottish. After that in came the Germans, with the hanoverians, and s-c-g and Windsors
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: DuVeL on February 11, 2005, 05:49:17 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Feb 11 2005, 05:36 PM
The last truly English King of England was Harold in 1066!
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I thought that was Benny? Or is he the King of something else?  ;)
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: Vincentvega on February 11, 2005, 06:11:01 PM
What cracked me up is when  the news said that all the american channels are running the story are saying "It is a very happy day for Britain"
Really?
I couldnt give a toss who marries who in that family, for all i care charlie can marry 1 of the corgi dogs....well hes nearly there.....
Waste of money the lot of em!!!!

Here endeth :lmfao:
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: MAD_ness on February 11, 2005, 06:26:35 PM
Can't believe Charlie actually admitted to have an affair with .......THAT .....whilst he was married to Di !!!!!!!!!

 :lmfao:  :lmfao:


GODAWFUL UGLY !!!!!!!!!!!     :blink:
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2005, 06:46:22 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by A Twig@Feb 11 2005, 05:44 PM
No, the Tudors were English. The stuarts who came next were Scottish. After that in came the Germans, with the hanoverians, and s-c-g and Windsors
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The first Tudor King, Henry VII, descended from Edward III, descended from Edward II, descended from Edward I, descended from Henry III, descended from John, descended from Stephen, Descended from William the Conqueror (Quod Erat Demonstrandum)

Even Harolds lineage is dodgy as he was descended from Harald Bluetooth King of Denmark!
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: Vincentvega on February 11, 2005, 07:10:16 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by MAD_ness@Feb 11 2005, 06:26 PM
Can't believe Charlie actually admitted to have an affair with .......THAT .....whilst he was married to Di !!!!!!!!!

 :lmfao: :lmfao:
GODAWFUL UGLY !!!!!!!!!!!   :blink:
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i to that  ..a face like a bosted orange :blink:
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: Doorman on February 11, 2005, 07:13:21 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by MAD_ness@Feb 11 2005, 06:26 PM
Can't believe Charlie actually admitted to have an affair with .......THAT .....whilst he was married to Di !!!!!!!!!

 :lmfao: :lmfao:
GODAWFUL UGLY !!!!!!!!!!!   :blink:
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Pot - kettle, kettle - pot. Perhaps she gives great h...... I mean looks aren't everything. If they were most of us would be up the Swanee. (except VincentVega of course. Damned fine looking chap!  :winkiss: )
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: Vincentvega on February 11, 2005, 07:14:27 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Feb 11 2005, 07:13 PM
Pot - kettle, kettle - pot. Perhaps she gives great h...... I mean looks aren't everything. If they were most of us would be up the Swanee. (except VincentVega of course. Damned fine looking chap! :winkiss: )
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:blush:  :blush: oh stop it ron..
no go on keep it up :dribble:
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: Doorman on February 11, 2005, 07:15:33 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Vincentvega@Feb 11 2005, 07:10 PM
i to that ..a face like a bosted orange :blink:
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A bosted orange? Naval, Seville, Jaffa............no, don't recall Bosteds. Do Sainsburys have them?
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: Vincentvega on February 11, 2005, 07:16:53 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Feb 11 2005, 07:15 PM
A bosted orange? Naval, Seville, Jaffa............no, don't recall Bosteds. Do Sainsburys have them?
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its chesterfield term for burst ...and its more like a ruby red bosted orange
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Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: Doorman on February 11, 2005, 07:16:56 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Vincentvega@Feb 11 2005, 07:14 PM
:blush: :blush: oh stop it ron..
no go on keep it up :dribble:
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I can't get it up these days much less KEEP it up!
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: Vincentvega on February 11, 2005, 07:17:37 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Feb 11 2005, 07:16 PM
I can't get it up these days much less KEEP it up!
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sorry to here that ron :whistle:
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: MAD_ness on February 11, 2005, 07:54:46 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Feb 11 2005, 07:16 PM
I can't get it up these days much less KEEP it up!
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 :lmfao:  :lmfao:

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Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: TeaLeaf on February 11, 2005, 08:19:21 PM
Bringing the thread back to some sense of normality:

If person A announces their engagement to person B then it may warrant some congratulations from their compatriates.  Nobody, of whichever family, should have to put up with the sniping from the piblic or press, netierh of whom knwo the first thing about them.  

Let he who is innocent cast the first stone.........

I wish all couples the best of luck.

TL.
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: MAD_ness on February 11, 2005, 10:00:41 PM
I didn't really care about anything to do with the Royal family before  





care even less now !!!


 ;)
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: A Twig on February 11, 2005, 11:00:51 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Feb 11 2005, 06:46 PM
The first Tudor King, Henry VII, descended from Edward III, descended from Edward II, descended from Edward I, descended from Henry III, descended from John, descended from Stephen, Descended from William the Conqueror (Quod Erat Demonstrandum)

Even Harolds lineage is dodgy as he was descended from Harald Bluetooth King of Denmark!
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Henry VII had no direct blood claim to the throne - as Burke's peerage puts it:

QuoteEarl of Richmond in s. to his father, 3 Nov 1456, King of England by conquest

Therefore not really related to Willy Conk AFAIK

Info on his father.

His father was Edmund Tudor, a Welshman of Welsh royal lineage, but that was not too important as far as his claim to the English throne went. What was important though was his heritage through his mother, Margaret Beaufort, a descendant of Edward III. This descent from King Edward was through his third son, John of Guant. John's third wife, Katherine Swynford had borne him several children as his mistress before he married her. The children born before the marriage were later legitmized, but barred from the succession. Margaret Beaufort was descended from one of the children born before the marriage of John and Katherine. The family Beaufort name being lost through the marriage, thus he is English, as his tie to the royal bloodline is by merit of an "in-law" status...
Title: Charles and Camilla
Post by: Dingo on February 12, 2005, 12:07:37 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Feb 11 2005, 06:46 PM
Even Harolds lineage is dodgy as he was descended from Harald Bluetooth King of Denmark!
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Which obviously means that the Danes were overun by the Swedes (Vikings) so in fact Dr Sadako should be the next King of England....makes sense to me, he is a Doctor after all?!! <_<  :D