Dead Men Walking

Tomorrow (Tuesday 19th April 2005) will be DoD play night.

So get on the dMw DoD server and checkout those sweet WWII weapsons.

Server will be passworded from 8pm. Usual pw applies.

CYA there.:)

82.197.65.246:27016 -=[dMw]=- Homer DoD Public

sounds like a date ;)

ive only played DOD once so i wont have a clue what im doing  :dummy:

i will try and make it :dribble:

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ive only played DOD once so i wont have a clue what im doing :dummy:

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I've played it lots and don't have a clue what I'm doing so don't worry ;)

Bugger, can't attend, schoolmeeting tonight but I'll inform my oldest bro, he's got the game aswell.

DoD.... :eyebrow: ..makes no sence heh :whistle:

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DoD.... :eyebrow: ..makes no sence heh :whistle:

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No, makes no sense at all  :whistle:  :whistle:

:unsure:  :wacko:  :wacko:  :unsure:

Why are all the nights I want to play organised when I have to work late?? Can w do another of these next week when I'm off for a week?

QuoteOriginally posted by Gh0st Face Killah@Apr 19 2005, 01:16 PM
Why are all the nights I want to play organised when I have to work late?? Can w do another of these next week when I'm off for a week?

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Sure. This is just so that us DoD n00bs get a bit of experience before the LAN.

This CS noob may even appear :D

TL.

i was thinking and how about if we have a "MOD" day every week, when theres no matches and theres like a rotations of mods?
personaly i like:
TFC
DMC
the specilasits
hl-rally

just an idea tho  :blush:

Not a bad idea, but I don't see people really wanting to have to learn to play a new mod each week for just a couple hours of gaming.

apart from the specilaist theres not much to learn

maybe a poll's in order?

How was it? Had fun tonight or not?

For me, I would like to know DoD first please. For the rest, what are all these mods you've posted?

DoD was ok, need a while to grow used to weaponry etc

I really enjoyed it. My lack of map layout knowledge was a problem but it didn't detract from the fun. I can see how this could get very tactical indeed. Sadako would have a field day on this mod :)

If you like this OB I think you'll LURV Red Orchestra :D

I was once a big DoD fan, but I tend to find some maps very dull. And when you don't play it often certain levels can be extremely confusing!!! :unsure:

Then again, it's a nice break from the normal CS :)

I must admit that after dipping my toe into the mysterious DoD pond last week, I wasn't much looking forward to playing tonight.

for about half an hour I was hoping someone would say "right I'm off to MH" coz I would've been gone like a shot....

but eventually I got the hang of it (sort of) and enjoyed the rest of the evening...shame it ended so early. :(

maybe at the Lan some kind person will tweak me settings & give me some tips etc. coz it still looks clunky on me screen.

I like the sniper rifles from the beach in the normandy landing map....I NEVER touch a snipey in cs....even a free one :blink:

I'm deffo up for this 1 again :D

Great fun. I didn't enjoy the last map we played as much as the others - a bunch of us spent half our time wondering where on earth the opposition was, while they picked us of with sniper rifles ;-)

That notwithstanding, the other maps were pretty good fun, and I'd be up for this again.  :D   Jolly good idea, this DOD night.

I did enjoy it. apart from the over use of the heavy machine gun on one map. what we be nice, is to have a 5 min map walkthrough at the beginning of each map. as it took me a while to get my bearings.

I really enjoyed last night Gents - top stuff!!  :thumbsup:

One thing I think we need on the server in the future are class limits.  I.e. only allow one sniper/MG per team.

For example: Playing as the Allies on dod_charlie (the Normandy beach map), pretty much all the team were snipers at one point.  Charlie is a map where you really need to grab satchel charges and assault en masse, with a lone sniper hanging back to counter-snipe and pick off any MGs in the bunkers.

I wouldn't bring the limits in just yet, as at the moment everyone's just experimenting with the different classes and still finding their feet.  If we decide to persevere with DoD (and I hope we do), once we proceed to get more tactical, that's when the limits should be brought in.

And ban rocket launchers :)

I agree, great fun. One small point though, I found it quite intensive in that there is no break when you die. OK, 5-6 seconds, but the action, and consequently, the concentration levels were high all the time. That's the reason I bowed out so soon.
All together now, "Poor old sod!"  :nevermind:

QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Apr 20 2005, 08:38 AM
I agree, great fun. One small point though, I found it quite intensive in that there is no break when you die. OK, 5-6 seconds, but the action, and consequently, the concentration levels were high all the time. That's the reason I bowed out so soon.
All together now, "Poor old sod!" :nevermind:

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Respawn delay can be altered on the server. Having a slightly longer respawn time is a good idea as it reduces the tendency for people to show too much bravado and makes them more cautious (bit more like real life).

As we play it more and get a better feel for which maps suit us I'm sure that the experience will become ever better.

Anybody remember dod_omaha? God that map was hard as allies but I loved it because it was difficult and on the odd occasion that you did win as allies you felt reeeeal goood :)

The servers I used to play dod on typically limited the class numbers and the rocket launcher was typically banned, although it's not a very fun class to be anyway imho :rolleyes:

I think the class limits used to depend on the number of people on a server. When there were more people on the server you could accasionally have more mg's and snipers on a team. I think the rest of the classes were also limited, and everyone else had to play the grunts

The beach maps are fun for sniping, but for the allies to have a chance of winning they have to be breaching the walls. The whole team simply lying in the shallows with sniper rifles won't win the map, although it might get your frags up a few notches. Personally I actually find some of the non-scoped grunt rifles (particularly the axis ones!) to be incredibly good for sniping anyway and get far more kills with that than with the snipers. I have to confess I do love the MG in a good position though :devil:


Bring on Caen - that was a great map

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And ban rocket launchers :)

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Can this be done on a map by map basis?

I ask because you need the bazookas to destroy objectives (the tanks on dod_jagd) for instance, and they're also useful for opening up alternate routes on the map (dod_caen has loads of these, although they can also be opened with satchel charges).

Bazookas used to be laying around like the satchel charges, and you could drop your primary weapon to pick one up.  They became a playable class in DoD 1.3.  As an anti-personnel weapon, they're pretty bad - but always funny when you do manage to get someone to explode with them.

The official manual is here (http://www.dayofdefeat.com/manual.html) if anyone wants to take a closer look.

Question, if you take the radar on CounterStrike and the mapthingy on DoD, on CS the radar is a bit easier. Is it possible to use the DoDradar as the CS 1? With this I mean facing the direction and so and not the complete map to turnaround the arrow but the arrow turning and the map changing. I hope you understand what I mean.  :blush:

QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Apr 20 2005, 02:38 AM
I agree, great fun. One small point though, I found it quite intensive in that there is no break when you die. OK, 5-6 seconds, but the action, and consequently, the concentration levels were high all the time.

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Aye - you cannae unwrap and eat a Rolo in 5 seconds, I discovered :(

I had great fun playing DoD there. It's been so long since I played it seriously that there have been a great many map changes since, and it was nice to play with other people who didn't know the maps so well so I didn't get trampled by the more experienced people. I do think however that instead of banning rocket launchers (I mean seriously - they're not all that useful as anti-infantry anyway) we should just go ahead and ban Frenzy ;)

As far as the beach maps go, I remember back in the betas of DoD the servers I played on just tended to remove the beach maps from the rotation, as they were very unpopular. That might be different now, but from what I have seen they're still just as bad.

Also, I really can't get used to the fact you can pick up dropped weapons now - it seems grossly unfair, though I can't really come up with a good reason why.

@Duv - there are just three map modes: 1) small thing in the top-right corner, 2) full-screen view of whole map, 3) no map. They can be toggled with the M key.

Oh, and one final tip: turn the autohelp off when you get a hang of the basics - that bloomin' dog annoys the pants off you after a while ("_ah 0" in console)

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When's the next DoD night? :D

QuoteOriginally posted by Maus@Apr 20 2005, 01:17 PM
Oh, and one final tip: turn the autohelp off when you get a hang of the basics - that bloomin' dog annoys the pants off you after a while ("_ah 0" in console)

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ahhh.... that'd be what the god was. autohelp. I was wondering why they had to keep showing the help :) a better use would be for the dog to yell what direction to run off in!

1 bark is left, 2 is right?  ;)

Thanks Maus, I'll try it out.

I had a great time playing DoD with you all last night until my PC crashed.  Ping was good and everyone seemed to be having fun.

I would also suggest putting a limit on the sniper rifles and machine guns.  As for the wait time before respawning, you can always just go AFK for a few extra seconds to make sure that rolo definitely has no foil left on it :)  Personally I'm there shouting at the PC "HURRY UP I NEED TO GET BACK TO RECAPTURE THAT FLAG DAMMIT!!!" :P

I hope this server stays, Barley :wub: DoD !

Maybe the reason I liked it, and this is pure speculation of course, is that we're all on more of an even experience level in relative terms. There are some here who have probably played over a thousand hours of CS (spitballing figures here, if you want to big up your own loss of real life in terms of hours spent playing CS, please go ahead, and, depressingly I'll be impressed...!). On the other hand, many of us are total n00bs at this DoD thing. That actually meant that (a) for once in my little life I was not the only one on the team who didn't have a clue where they were going and what to do; and (B) that I had a hope in hell of walking into an open space and surviving more than 2 seconds before being sniped from some god-forsaken unknown shadowy hell hole that required a bunk up from another player to get there in the first place.

I'm not bitter - I'm jealous about how damn good some of y'all are at CS, and embarrassed at how bad I am. On the other hand for one night at least, for me, DoD was the great leveller.

I even shot a couple of people. Yay me!  :dribble:

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Can this be done on a map by map basis?

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Yes.  Been a while since I've looked at this: in the server dod/ directory, edit the file with the name of the map and add the appropriate class restrictions.  If you wish to limit the use of something across the board, add it to server.cfg (which IIRC, the map file will override the server.cfg when it is loaded)

ex:  

blitzkrieg.cfg

mp_limitaxisscopedkar 1
mp_limitaxismg34 1
mp_limitaxismg42 2

mp_limitalliesspring 1
mp_limitallies30cal 3
echo blitzkrieg.cfg loaded