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Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Sn00ks on June 13, 2005, 01:46:53 PM
Well it looks like you are all going to be playing BF2 and my current card, fx5600 256MB, won't support it. So I think I needs a new one if I want to join in.

So what do people recommend?  :blush:


I've seen an ATI Radeon X800 Sapphire-PRO 256MB AGP for £253 inc vat. Is this worth going for? Anyone seen it cheaper?

Is it worth having VIVO? What would I want it for? How is the old NVidia/ATI debate going? And other nerdy questions.  :unsure:
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: GhostMjr on June 13, 2005, 02:02:17 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Sn00ks@Jun 13 2005, 01:46 PM
Well it looks like you are all going to be playing BF2 and my current card, fx5600 256MB, won't support it. So I think I needs a new one if I want to join in.

So what do people recommend? :blush:
I've seen an ATI Radeon X800 Sapphire-PRO 256MB AGP for £253 inc vat. Is this worth going for? Anyone seen it cheaper?

Is it worth having VIVO? What would I want it for? How is the old NVidia/ATI debate going? And other nerdy questions. :unsure:
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Well u can get it for £196.99 on ebay excluding p&p

NEW SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON X800 PRO 256MB AGP8X NO VAT!! (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=67864&item=5206620851&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

Myself and blueball have nvidia xfx 6800 gt's and i prefer the 6800gt to other cards to be perfectly honest.
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Anonymous on June 13, 2005, 02:04:33 PM
As to the nVidia/ATi debate it is pointless. I prefer nVidia but thats because I've been buying them for years and never had a problem. Not always the fastest but it works :)

The nVidia is faster in some games and the ATi faster in others. Get what floats your boat at a decent price - both manufacturers supply good cards.
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: TeaLeaf on June 13, 2005, 02:13:03 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by GhostMjr@Jun 13 2005, 02:02 PM
Well u can get it for £196.99 on ebay excluding p&p
That'll be £206.98 inc P&P and if yu happen to get hammered for import duty (as this  (http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=preppytechnologies) poor chap did - check towards the bottom of feedback page) then it will work out to be a minimum of £243.20 and possibly more.  If it goes wrong and your RMA is to the US what are your time and out of pocket costs?

For the difference in price you have to think carefully..........

TL.
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Sn00ks on June 13, 2005, 07:28:22 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Jun 13 2005, 02:13 PM
That'll be £206.98 inc P&P and if yu happen to get hammered for import duty (as this  (http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=preppytechnologies) poor chap did - check towards the bottom of feedback page) then it will work out to be a minimum of £243.20 and possibly more.  If it goes wrong and your RMA is to the US what are your time and out of pocket costs?

For the difference in price you have to think carefully..........

TL.
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Ah the voice of reason!  :)
 I don't mind paying a bit extra if I think the overall package is better. RMA and a 1 year warrenty is probably worth a fair amount, especially if there are problems.


I've always been an Nvidia man so I'm tempted by the 6800s. I'll have a look around for one.  
Any guidance BB?
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Dingo on June 13, 2005, 07:43:10 PM
They have a Sapphire X800Pro Full retail over at Komplett for £222

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=300413&cks=PRL (http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=300413&cks=PRL)


or a Retail Light at Tekheads for £229.13

http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=603765 (http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=603765)


Leaving a few extra bob for beer money!! <_<  :D
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: RizZy on June 13, 2005, 07:45:57 PM
I've got a 6800 GT in mine Sn00ks, the cheapest place I found most cards at the time I brought was on overclockers. Your looking at £240 - £270 for a gt dependant on who its by, £120 - £180 for a vanila 6800 & £260 - £330 for an ultra.

Its worth checking the "this week only" (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_This_Week_Only_25.html) section at ocuk - Leadtek WinFast A400TDH GeForce 6800 GT 256MB DDR3 TV-Out/DVI = Price:  Â£174.95   (£205.57 Including VAT at 17.5%)
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Anonymous on June 13, 2005, 08:25:21 PM
I would avoid the vanilla 6800 - I don't think it is good value for money.

The card that GhostMjr and I have is the XFX 6800 GT (link (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/GeForce_6800_GT.html)) and it is £264 with a copy of Doom3 from OCUK. It is also a single slot card, some 6800GTs need 2 slots so watch yerself :)
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Sn00ks on June 13, 2005, 08:49:20 PM
Hmm the BFG GeForce 6800 GT OC 256MB DDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (AGP) looks good. But it needs AGP 2.0. My Mobo (ASUS A7N8X Deluxe) does AGP PRO 8x, is that the same?  :blink:
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Anonymous on June 13, 2005, 08:56:36 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Sn00ks@Jun 13 2005, 07:49 PM
Hmm the BFG GeForce 6800 GT OC 256MB DDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (AGP) looks good. But it needs AGP 2.0. My Mobo (ASUS A7N8X Deluxe) does AGP PRO 8x, is that the same? :blink:
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Thats AGP 3, you should be fine :)
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Norm on June 13, 2005, 08:59:21 PM
Not the same but will work,agp pro cards have extra pins @ either end for power. :D

BB have to beg to differ, I'm sure its a separate standard. :whistle:
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Anonymous on June 13, 2005, 10:54:38 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Norm@Jun 13 2005, 07:59 PM
Not the same but will work,agp pro cards have extra pins @ either end for power. :D

BB have to beg to differ, I'm sure its a separate standard. :whistle:
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Don't know. I took my answer from Asus website detailing Sn00ksies motherboard  :devil:

See here (http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x-d/overview.htm)

But I went looking and this seems to suggest AGP Pro is basically an extension to the AGP specification see here (http://www.sysopt.com/articles/agpupgrades/). AGP cards fit in an AGP Pro slot but not vicky verky ;)

Who cares it'll work  :lmfao:
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Sn00ks on June 14, 2005, 11:39:25 AM
Doh! I looked there but obviously I'm going senile and missed it!  :blush:

Now to work up the courage to order it, I was going to get a personal GPS, as my birthday treat, but this might be more important. Not that I have any use for a GPS at the moment anyway!
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: DogMeat on June 14, 2005, 12:35:39 PM
I can also recommend one of these if you go for the 6800:

(http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/NV51.jpg)

Arctic Cooling nVidia 5 (6800 Series) VGA Silencer (HS-009-AR)  

You will need a spare slot next to your AGP slot to fit it though...

D "coolio" M
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Anonymous on June 14, 2005, 12:43:14 PM
Being lazy i have to ask if you have a weblink to a supplier of that?

EDIT: Ignore, Overclock (http://www.overclock.co.uk/customer/product.php?productid=18595) do them for about £14
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Dingo on June 14, 2005, 10:40:08 PM
Or you might want to visit Scan for the Gainward 6800GT Golden Sample

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo...roductID=132389 (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=132389)


With a copy of Doom III for a mere £175.00 :dribble:
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Anonymous on June 14, 2005, 11:27:57 PM
Thats a helluva good price for a 6800GT  :dribble:
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Sn00ks on June 15, 2005, 09:10:30 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Dingo@Jun 14 2005, 10:40 PM
Or you might want to visit Scan for the Gainward 6800GT Golden Sample

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo...roductID=132389 (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=132389)
With a copy of Doom III for a mere £175.00 :dribble:
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That does look good, trouble is they are out of stock!!  :angry:
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Dingo on June 15, 2005, 09:40:21 PM
BB and Snooks you have a pm....pick up!! :)
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2005, 09:51:42 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by DogMeat@Jun 14 2005, 01:35 PM
I can also recommend one of these if you go for the 6800:

(http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/NV51.jpg)

Arctic Cooling nVidia 5 (6800 Series) VGA Silencer (HS-009-AR)

You will need a spare slot next to your AGP slot to fit it though...

D "coolio" M
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I can second this. Have the same cooling solution on my ATI X800 XT and it's really, really quiet and provides excellent cooling, should you have a thing for overclocking.
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2005, 11:35:11 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Cain@Jun 15 2005, 08:51 PM
I can second this. Have the same cooling solution on my ATI X800 XT and it's really, really quiet and provides excellent cooling, should you have a thing for overclocking.
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Mine arrived today. I'll fit it at the weekend :)
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Sn00ks on June 16, 2005, 01:47:39 PM
Scan aren't going to be getting any more of those Gainwards but they do have this one on special this week.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/productinfo...roductID=224297 (http://www.scan.co.uk/products/productinfo.asp?WebProductID=224297)
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Blunt on June 16, 2005, 02:11:41 PM
what do you think of THIS (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=65011&_LOC=UK) one?

are Ebuyer any good to deal with?

is this a good price?

I was looking for a flatscreen, but with bf2 on the scene, it looks like I'm gonna ditch the old 5600 for summat a bit more pokey.

I'd appreciate your views 8)
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: suicidal_monkey on June 16, 2005, 02:33:08 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Blunt@Jun 16 2005, 02:11 PM
are Ebuyer any good to deal with?
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you know there's a section on these forums for this? :) (http://forum.deadmen.co.uk/index.php?showforum=111)

ebuyer are cheap and if your product is retail boxed you are probably fine. Always check for reviews as they occasionally mis-describe products (usually only really really cheap ones though)

The main thing you miss out on is aftersales support, though I've used their e-ticket system and it sort of worked, and anyway not a lot of places have great aftersales support :eyebrow:
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2005, 04:34:08 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Jun 15 2005, 10:35 PM
Mine arrived today. I'll fit it at the weekend :)
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Couldn't wait. Fitted it today :D

The noise dropped a bit to levels I don't notice and it took 10 degree Centigrade of the GPU temp!!!!!!!

Ghost Mjr! Get one and fit it!!!!
Title: New graphics cards recommendations?
Post by: Blunt on June 18, 2005, 01:05:05 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by suicidal_monkey@Jun 16 2005, 02:33 PM
you know there's a section on these forums for this? :) (http://forum.deadmen.co.uk/index.php?showforum=111)

ebuyer are cheap and if your product is retail boxed you are probably fine. Always check for reviews as they occasionally mis-describe products (usually only really really cheap ones though)

The main thing you miss out on is aftersales support, though I've used their e-ticket system and it sort of worked, and anyway not a lot of places have great aftersales support :eyebrow:
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cheers...

but is the card any good?