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Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Hippy on July 08, 2005, 02:01:24 PM
I currently have a 512mb stick of DDR400 (PC3200) generic RAM, im looking to give the stick to Doris and upgrade to 1gb of good stuff.

What should i buy for £80-£125ish.
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Blunt on July 08, 2005, 02:11:50 PM
This 1 looks rather nice :D

(http://www.icelandicsheep.com/SheepMasterListPics/Gray%20ram%20lamb.jpg)
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: FBG on July 08, 2005, 02:39:48 PM
Dont know what type to get but i'd definately read the mobo manual. I couldn't believe my comp was running so badly and after a little bit of investigation i realised the memory sticks were in the wrong banks. Putting them in the correct slots has has made a significant improvement. (memory benchmarks were doubled!)

Also having read the tips on what type of memory to get, if your getting chips larger than 512 make sure there EEC (or is it ECC) parity. (please correct me if this is the wrong term). Basically the memory runs slightly slower but is less likely to have memory errors often encountered with large memory chips.
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: RizZy on July 08, 2005, 02:46:25 PM
Best thing I can say to do is give Norm a nudge & chat to him, even if you end up going for something he can't supply you, he'll give you good info & advice on it all for sure (he's nice like that)
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Cadaver on July 08, 2005, 02:51:21 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Hippy@Jul 8 2005, 02:01 PM
I currently have a 512mb stick of DDR400 (PC3200) generic RAM, im looking to give the stick to Doris and upgrade to 1gb of good stuff.

What should i buy for £80-£125ish.
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A few choices for PC3200 (DDR400) , 1GB - all available from Overclockers.Flibb's got a valid point, definitely RTFM before buying any memory in case you get the wrong stuff.  Dual channel paired DIMMs are slightly better than using a single DIMM, but this is only really on motherboard chipsets with dual memory controllers (e.g. NVidia nForce2).

I've got 1GB of PC3200 Crucial Ballistix in mine running at 2-2-2-6, seems zippy enough.  Crucial are rock-solid reliability wise (we design their parent company Micron's parts in to stuff here all the time at work), but probably not the best choice if you're a hard core overclocker.

Have a chat with Norm and see what he can come up with.  ;)

Edit: Don't forget to add VAT to the above prices, as I clearly didn't  :oops:
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Norm on July 08, 2005, 02:56:14 PM
I'm on it,just waiting for update to price lists. ;)
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Norm on July 08, 2005, 03:08:03 PM
Hippy,a question.Do you overclock? :devil:

Also is it a DC capable mb?
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Hippy on July 08, 2005, 03:27:02 PM
QuoteHippy,a question.Do you overclock?

Nope.

QuoteAlso is it a DC capable mb?


DC, erm? explain please.  :dummy:

My mobo is a GA-K8VNXP using the K8T800 chipset.

Supports:
184-pin DDR DIMM
DDR400/333/266/200 DIMM
sticks of 128/256/512/1gb
Only 2.5v DDR DIMM
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Norm on July 08, 2005, 03:31:30 PM
Try this:   OCZ 1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 Dual Channel Gold VX EL-DDR CAS2.0 £125 inc p and p  Overclockers price £140.94 exc p and p

DC = dual channel.Sorry for abreviation. :blush:
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Hippy on July 08, 2005, 03:33:21 PM
Ahh, then its a no.
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Hippy on July 08, 2005, 03:34:26 PM
Ill give you a PM in the near future Norm.


EDIT:That memory is dual channel, or DC. :narnar: and my mobo doesnt support it :(
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Norm on July 08, 2005, 03:46:05 PM
Np Hippy,I also do a nice line in PSU's. :dribble:  ;)
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Hippy on July 08, 2005, 03:47:24 PM
I got a 550watt already, i sent my broken 400watt back to sphinx and they sent me an upgrade. :D
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Hippy on July 08, 2005, 03:53:59 PM
Im confused.

QuoteDual channel paired DIMMs are slightly better than using a single DIMM, but this is only really on motherboard chipsets with dual memory controllers

so i can use the daul-channel RAM but i wont see the benefits?
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Cadaver on July 08, 2005, 04:04:13 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Hippy@Jul 8 2005, 03:53 PM
Im confused.
so i can use the daul-channel RAM but i wont see the benefits?
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Exactly.  Memory sticks that are flogged as dual channel pairs, start out life being manufactured just the same as any other memory stick.  The vendor just goes the extra step to test a pair together, and rubber stamp them as working in a dual-channel setup.  'tis a marketing thing mostly.

You need two separate memory controllers in your motherboard chipset to get the full benefits.  But they'll work just fine on your board.

The only real question you have to ask yourself is: do I want to fill two slots to get 1GB, or just one?

The power consumption with running two DIMMs is marginally higher, yet you don't lose all your memory if a single DIMM fails.  Decisions decisions eh?  ;)
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: GhostMjr on July 08, 2005, 04:04:47 PM
ok hipster you may find this interesting a 1gb stick of ddr 400 ram for 59.99 including vat from ebuyer.co.uk and with free shipping for this item

Ebuyer 1GB DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin Extra Value Ram (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=63128)
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Cadaver on July 08, 2005, 04:11:02 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by GhostMjr@Jul 8 2005, 04:04 PM
ok hipster you may find this interesting a 1gb stick of ddr 400 ram for 59.99 including vat from ebuyer.co.uk

Ebuyer 1GB DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin Extra Value Ram (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=63128)
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Yeah, but he wants to get rid of his generic memory doesn't he.  Value RAM is just that - cheap!  I don't see anything on there regarding latencies, manufacturer, etc - and you have the notoriously crap eNotes system to put up with should an RMA be in order.  :rolleyes:
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Norm on July 08, 2005, 04:12:06 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by GhostMjr@Jul 8 2005, 04:04 PM
ok hipster you may find this interesting a 1gb stick of ddr 400 ram for 59.99 including vat from ebuyer.co.uk and with free shipping for this item

Ebuyer 1GB DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin Extra Value Ram (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=63128)
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Top quality it is too. :whistle:  nope sorry............ :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Hippy on July 08, 2005, 04:12:42 PM
Yes i was put off straight away by the VALUE part of it.

I got money to burn, damn it!
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Hippy on July 08, 2005, 04:14:55 PM
Thanks guys.



except Ghostmjr who clearly didnt read my first post!

Quoteupgrade to 1gb of good stuff.

:narnar:
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: GhostMjr on July 08, 2005, 04:15:21 PM
well it works what more do you want ;)
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Hippy on July 08, 2005, 04:27:40 PM
Just checking the memory specs and it says that the memory is 2.8volts but my mobo manual says it only supports 2.5v

info page (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_3200_dual_channel_gold)

Should i worry?
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Dingo on July 08, 2005, 04:46:59 PM
Or save yourself some pennies and go for this

Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200C2 Pro CAS2 (MY-081-CS)
Price:  Â£84.95   (£99.82 Including VAT at 17.5%)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Corsair_XMS.html (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Corsair_XMS.html)


lovely bit of kit.....just got myself a pair of 512's and they run like a dream :dribble:  :D
Title: What do you reccomend?
Post by: Hippy on July 14, 2005, 06:31:51 PM
Yep thats/they're the one(s) i went for....oh and i got a sunbeam fan, with cold cathode. WOW its bright.


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