I have just added another 1Gb of RAM to my PC to bring it to 2Gb. What a bloody difference in BF2 - jerkiness gone, smooth as a babies bum :) Loading times hugely improved (no disk swapping)
Get yer hands in yer pockets guys :)
mmmm.... i had a feeling that might sort the problem and i was thinking about it so yeah might well go for it seeing bf2 is a good game and the more u upgrade the better it get
thank for the tip
Guys start saving up for extra ram lol
gah, we need 2Gb now do we? :huh:
If you drop your graphics requirements you can happily get away with running BF2 at 1280x960 on 1Gb with decent enough load times and lack of jerkiness, but then I guess I keep my graphics tweaks on the lowish side anyway for the sake of my poor "dated" computer -_-
I run 1280x960 as well but I like everything turned to high (max AA/AF) so it looks nice :)
Must be why my 756Mb aint really up to the job :sad:
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Must be why my 756Mb aint really up to the job :sad:
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You don't need more RAM Frenzy, otherwise rest of us won't stand a chance :)
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You don't need more RAM Frenzy, otherwise rest of us won't stand a chance :)
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s'true the bitch :ranting:
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Jul 25 2005, 05:12 PM
I have just added another 1Gb of RAM to my PC to bring it to 2Gb. What a bloody difference in BF2 - jerkiness gone, smooth as a babies bum :) Loading times hugely improved (no disk swapping)
Get yer hands in yer pockets guys :)
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Done that. Concur.
Yeah - it's pay day this Thursday (...thank f*** for that!)...
;)
And a sack full of matched memory is on the cards.
I'm just a bit confused about the types of memory available today - they do all this fancy-nancy 'gaming' memory with flashy covers on it and all sorts!
Shheeeesh!
:)
Runs fine here with 1gig and f@h running. Must admit didnt until I set pagefile,it was very jerky.Now only problem is NTL,as they like to make my cable light flash every so often. :angry:
I also run fine with 1GB.
But it's still a good excuse for Norm to post some stonking deals on OCZ or Corsair 2x1GB modules :norty:
TL.
(not sure if OCZ even do 1GB modules)
As if I would take advantage. ;)
Just waiting for updated trade list to come. :D
Anyone like kingston memory, I am just trying to get trade on them.?
Old price list but somewhere near.OCZ EL Dual Channel platinum 2gig kit 2-3-2-5 DDR 400: £220.
I've had to send back 1Gb of RAM as the PC kept crashing. Turns out that Crucial had sent me 1Gb of double sided RAM and 1 Gb single sided RAM and it should all have been single sided :(
tarts :devil:
oh no slap their ass er no they might like that better slap their wrist lol
hope u get the right 1 this time
OK so if I upgrade to 2GB how should I do it?
I've got 2x 512 matched dual channel PC3200 jobbies so should I stick a third 1GB stick in the spare slot or should I just buy 2x 1GB match dual channel PC3200 sticks and scrap the old memory?
What is the difference between CAS2 and CAS3, apart from price, one set at £212 the other at £165? Would I notice the difference?
QuoteOriginally posted by Sn00ks@Jul 26 2005, 01:03 PM
OK so if I upgrade to 2GB how should I do it?
I've got 2x 512 matched dual channel PC3200 jobbies so should I stick a third 1GB stick in the spare slot or should I just buy 2x 1GB match dual channel PC3200 sticks and scrap the old memory?
What is the difference between CAS2 and CAS3, apart from price, one set at £212 the other at £165? Would I notice the difference?
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As you are running Dual channel if you add 1 stick then the whole board will drop to single channel. Best to add 2 sticks. Mm, just noticed that your post seems to imply that you only have 3 slots in which case it may not actually be running in Dual Channel mode in which case no harm in adding a single 1Gb. However, my old Epox board would not support 3 sticks of double sided memory. It had to be single sided memory in slots 2 and 3 although double sided was OK in slot 1.
The SAFE way is to buy 2 x 1Gb sticks. The CHEAP way is to add 1 x 1Gb stick and hope it works.
Make sure that the CL is the same for all sticks.
My Mobo is an ASUS A7N8X-delux and it supports dual channel (I think :unsure: ), as long as memory is stuck in slots 1 and 3, but only has 3 slots and a max of 3GB RAM.
QuoteOriginally posted by Sn00ks@Jul 26 2005, 01:15 PM
My Mobo is an ASUS A7N8X-delux and it supports dual channel (I think :unsure: ), as long as memory is stuck in slots 1 and 3, but only has 3 slots and a max of 3GB RAM.
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In that case get 2 x 1Gb sticks and put them in slots 1 and 3. Leave slot 2 empty.
CL2 is faster (and more expensive) than CL3 memory. Get CL2 if you think you can stretch to it but CL3 will be fine otherwise.
QuoteOriginally posted by Sn00ks@Jul 26 2005, 03:15 PM
My Mobo is an ASUS A7N8X-delux and it supports dual channel (I think :unsure: ), as long as memory is stuck in slots 1 and 3, but only has 3 slots and a max of 3GB RAM.
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Asus A7N8X used the nForce chipset, so yes it supports dual channel. The two blue slots are to be used if you only have to sticks, to enabled Dual Channel. If you put in a 3rd stick it will still run in dual channel mode.
I'm unsure too...
I've got
2x512 cards 1023 MB
RAM Slots 3 DDR DIMM
Bus Type DDR SDRAM
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 199 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 398 MHz
Bandwidth 3187 MB/s
what to do? :blink: :huh: :unsure:
edit:
Motherboard Name ECS KT600-A
QuoteOriginally posted by Blunt@Jul 26 2005, 03:36 PM
I'm unsure too...
I've got
2x512 cards 1023 MB
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??? :dummy: ??? 2x512=1024..... :lmfao:
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??? :dummy: ??? 2x512=1024..... :lmfao:
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I thought it was a typo, but that's what Everest tells me ...1023 :narnar:
QuoteOriginally posted by delanvital@Jul 26 2005, 01:26 PM
Asus A7N8X used the nForce chipset, so yes it supports dual channel. The two blue slots are to be used if you only have to sticks, to enabled Dual Channel. If you put in a 3rd stick it will still run in dual channel mode.
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Don't see how that will work. Dual Channel requires two sticks in 2 slots. Having 3 sticks would mean that some would have to be accessed in single channel mode and the chipset can only work in Dual or Single channel, not both.
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Jul 26 2005, 03:40 PM
Don't see how that will work. Dual Channel requires two sticks in 2 slots. Having 3 sticks would mean that some would have to be accessed in single channel mode and the chipset can only work in Dual or Single channel, not both.
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Not strictly true mate. On the A7N8X (and most other Nforce2 motherboards, I would imagine) the dual-channel memory is implemented by having two separate memory controllers.
Controller #1 does DIMM slots 1 and 2. Whilst controller #2 is for slot 3. Hence the recommendation for a two DIMM dual-channel solution to be sited in slots 1 & 3, or 2 & 3.
Now, so long as you have the same amount of memory running on each memory controller, the board will be in dual-channel mode. So it is quite legal to have 2x256MB in slots 1 & 2, and a 512MB DIMM in slot 3 for 1GB dual-channel overall. I know, because I've done it ;).
But beware, some cards are only designed to have two slots being used if you run at DDR400 speeds. As always, RTFM.
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Jul 26 2005, 04:40 PM
Don't see how that will work. Dual Channel requires two sticks in 2 slots. Having 3 sticks would mean that some would have to be accessed in single channel mode and the chipset can only work in Dual or Single channel, not both.
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I had the same concern with my A7N8XE-Deluxe (not that I have three sticks at the moment), but according to the manual (some time ago since I read it) you would still run in dual channel mode - they formulate it something like "if you install a 3rd stick it will not impact the performance", here implicitcly referring to dual channel. Otherwise I guess they would have made 4 slots? Mine also have three.
I can install a third stick from one of the other machines here and test it if anyone wants - it specifies whether it runs DC when booting so I won't take long to check.
QuoteOriginally posted by Cadaver@Jul 26 2005, 04:35 PM
Not strictly true mate. On the A7N8X (and most other Nforce2 motherboards, I would imagine) the dual-channel memory is implemented by having two separate memory controllers.
Controller #1 does DIMM slots 1 and 2. Whilst controller #2 is for slot 3. Hence the recommendation for a two DIMM dual-channel solution to be sited in slots 1 & 3, or 2 & 3.
Now, so long as you have the same amount of memory running on each memory controller, the board will be in dual-channel mode. So it is quite legal to have 2x256MB in slots 1 & 2, and a 512MB DIMM in slot 3 for 1GB dual-channel overall. I know, because I've done it ;).
But beware, some cards are only designed to have two slots being used if you run at DDR400 speeds. As always, RTFM.
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I have a chaintech 7njs (NF2 MCP) with 2x256MB in 1&2 and 512MB in 3 and it runs fine in dual channel mode. Just wish MISCO would hurry up and send my GF6600GT back so I can back in the game. :-(
QuoteOriginally posted by Cadaver@Jul 26 2005, 03:35 PM
Not strictly true mate. On the A7N8X (and most other Nforce2 motherboards, I would imagine) the dual-channel memory is implemented by having two separate memory controllers.
Controller #1 does DIMM slots 1 and 2. Whilst controller #2 is for slot 3. Hence the recommendation for a two DIMM dual-channel solution to be sited in slots 1 & 3, or 2 & 3.
Now, so long as you have the same amount of memory running on each memory controller, the board will be in dual-channel mode. So it is quite legal to have 2x256MB in slots 1 & 2, and a 512MB DIMM in slot 3 for 1GB dual-channel overall. I know, because I've done it ;).
But beware, some cards are only designed to have two slots being used if you run at DDR400 speeds. As always, RTFM.
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Cheers. You learn something new every day :D
Does that mean I just have to buy one 1GB PC3200 stick and move the 521 from slot thre to slot two and stick the 1GB in slot three to get 2GB running as dual channel DDR400 RAM? What about matching the memory?
QuoteOriginally posted by Sn00ks@Jul 26 2005, 09:12 PM
Does that mean I just have to buy one 1GB PC3200 stick and move the 512 (edit) from slot thre to slot two and stick the 1GB in slot three to get 2GB running as dual channel DDR400 RAM? What about matching the memory?
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tentatively say yes to this. 2x512MB PC3200 in slots 1 & 2 and 1x1GB PC3200 in slot 3
should work as dual-channel. I'm not totally sure, but I think the DIMM latencies and clock speeds have to be matched as well as the amount of memory per controller for dual-channel. That's the tricky part. Most 1GB DIMMS are CAS Latency 3, whereas 512MB ones are CAS Latency 2.5 or 2.
Let me do some digging. It's been a while since I had my A7N8X so I'll need to pull the manual from Asus' site. Don't go buying anything just yet ;).
OK thanks Cadaver. I've had a quick perusal of the manual and it states:-
'To enhance system performance, utilize dual-channel feature when installing additional DIMMs. You may install the DIMMs in the following sequence: Sockets 1 and 3 or Sockets 2 and 3 or Sockets 1, 2 and 3.'
How would I tell the speed of the current memory? I know it is PC3200 and I suspect it is CAS2 :dummy:
QuoteOriginally posted by Sn00ks@Jul 27 2005, 09:57 AM
How would I tell the speed of the current memory? I know it is PC3200 and I suspect it is CAS2 :dummy:
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Speedwise - you know it's PC3200, so that's fine. It's just an indication of the highest front-side bus speed the memory can support. PC3200 = DDR400 = 200MHz front-side bus.
For the RAM timings and CAS latency:
From windows use something like Lavalys Everest (Home Edition) (http://www.lavalys.com/products/overview.php?pid=1〈=en) or SiSoft Sandra (http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/) to report on the memory.
Otherwise, enter the BIOS (hold DEL during power-on) and you can see the RAM settings under Advanced > Advanced Chipset Features
The A7N8X manual states that it allows all three slots to run PC3200 memory, which is good. I just need to check now whether latency mismatches between DIMMs hose dual-channel completely, or if it just means everything runs at the timings for the DIMM with the highest latency figures.
Hi guys
My mate Ranger found this info:
If you goto this link Crucial website - crucial motherboard scanner (http://www.crucial.com/uk),
You can either input your board etc if you know it or below that is a Scan my System button:
- it will tell you what memory you have
- what memory is in which slot
- max memory your mother board supports etc
- board manufacturer and model
- which memory is compatible
- and which memory they have in stock etc so you can order it and you know it will be compatible etc
Really useful as both Ranger and I are buying 2 gig of ram at the weekend.
nb: it downloads an active X control
Hope its useful.
Nice tool.
Apparently i can have upto 3 gig
Think i went over the top with 2 SLi Pci Express Graphics Cards and 4Gb RAM :D But hey it works 8)
Yup a good tool. Though it says I've got memory in slots 1 and 2 when it is 1 and 3; and it doesn't tell you what latency it is. It also says that I could add upto 2Gb PC3200. I'm sure when I checked the BIOS it said that it's running at CAS 2.5 :blink:
Though the BIOS memory settings are set to auto and the latency option is greyed out. But will it run in dual channel mode if I stick the 2 512s in slots 1 and 2 and 1GB in slot 3?
Confused of Sheffield?
Talking about latency. I went to Maplin to see what memory they had , because I was bored this lunchtime, and saw that they had 1GB PC3200 for £99, so I asked the blok what latency was it. Dumb looks all round, no-one knew what I meant so they checked their database and found a reference in the FAQs to the 512MB RAM being 2.5 but I said that didn't apply tothe 1GB so they rang their techie helpdesk and they didn't know what latency was! :roflmao: :whistle:
get yourself a copy of Sisoft Sandra and run the "Mainboard information" module. It will tell you everything you need to know about your memory.
here is what it says about my memory:
"You are old and forgetful" :roflmao:
Sorry it actually reports:
QuoteMemory Module 1
Manufacturer : Micron
Model : 8VDDT6464AG-40BDB
Serial Number : 1B759A82
Type : 512MB DDR-SDRAM
Technology : 8x(64Mx8)
Speed : PC3200U 3.0-3-3-8
Version : 1.1
Date of Manufacture : Saturday 09 July 2005
Set Timing @ 200MHz : 3.0-3-3-8
Set Timing @ 167MHz : 2.5-3-3-7
Set Timing @ 133MHz : 2.0-2-2-5
Memory Module 2
Manufacturer : Micron
Model : 8VDDT6464AG-40BDB
Serial Number : 1B759A83
Type : 512MB DDR-SDRAM
Technology : 8x(64Mx8)
Speed : PC3200U 3.0-3-3-8
Version : 1.1
Date of Manufacture : Saturday 09 July 2005
Set Timing @ 200MHz : 3.0-3-3-8
Set Timing @ 167MHz : 2.5-3-3-7
Set Timing @ 133MHz : 2.0-2-2-5
You can get Sandra from here (http://www.sisoftware.net/)
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Jul 27 2005, 07:22 PM
get yourself a copy of Sisoft Sandra and run the "Mainboard information" module. It will tell you everything you need to know about your memory.
You can get Sandra from here (http://www.sisoftware.net/)
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:rolleyes:
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Find:free :excl: phrase not found
:rolleyes:
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It is free :)
Download the lite version.
cpu-z is a decent little proggy that'll tell you all kinds of stuff about your mobo & ram, find it here (http://www.cpuid.org/cpuz.php)
QuoteOriginally posted by BIG-Dewey@Jul 27 2005, 10:29 AM
Hi guys
My mate Ranger found this info:
If you goto this link Crucial website - crucial motherboard scanner (http://www.crucial.com/uk),
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Has shafted my Firefox profile :ranting: :ranting:
crucials scanner doesn't recognise my mobo and the manufacturer isn't there :( Sparkle made the dam,n thing but I think they then decided not to admit it
QuoteOriginally posted by Sn00ks@Jul 27 2005, 07:17 PM
Yup a good tool. Though it says I've got memory in slots 1 and 2 when it is 1 and 3; and it doesn't tell you what latency it is. It also says that I could add upto 2Gb PC3200. I'm sure when I checked the BIOS it said that it's running at CAS 2.5 :blink:
Though the BIOS memory settings are set to auto and the latency option is greyed out. But will it run in dual channel mode if I stick the 2 512s in slots 1 and 2 and 1GB in slot 3?
Confused of Sheffield?
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Right, I've asked around and it should work in dual-channel in the configuration you've said. Get another 1GB PC3200 stick and set your memory timings to the largest latency figures of the three DIMMs.
E.g if the 2x512MB are working at 2.5-3-3-7 and the 1GB you buy can only manage 3-3-3-8, then set the whole lot to run at 3-3-3-8 in the BIOS. The 512MB sticks won't mind being given a couple of extra clock cycles to get their data out.
Even if it doesn't end up working in dual-channel you'll still have 2GB total RAM :). And the dual-channel gain isn't all that much anyway in real-world terms (it looks great on paper though). Relatively speaking, the greatest system improvement will be by getting the extra gig in there.
OK Thanks Cadaver. I'll run Sandra Sisoft thingy and check the timings on what I've got and then purchase a suitable 1Gig stick. 8)
Right Sisoft says my memory is Bank 0 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-7 2CMD. So looking on overclockers they have a 1GB stick that is CAS2 with 'Memory timings of 2-3-3-6' Is this what I want? What do all the numbers mean? :unsure:
EDIT: I've got two of them there 512MB sticks.
QuoteOriginally posted by Sn00ks@Jul 29 2005, 09:07 PM
Right Sisoft says my memory is Bank 0 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-7 2CMD. So looking on overclockers they have a 1GB stick that is CAS2 with 'Memory timings of 2-3-3-6' Is this what I want? What do all the numbers mean? :unsure:
EDIT: I've got two of them there 512MB sticks.
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That stick should be OK if you set memory timings in your BIOS to 2.5-3-3-7 (ie the slowest timings) so that all sticks match. Dont use SPD (serial presence detect) as it will cause confusion
[Kinda 'OT' - but then not!]
Well, BIG-Dewey, BIG-Spread and I ordered our additional RAM yesterday...
I ordered 2 x 1gig sticks to take me up to 2.5gig.
After all this intense talk about memory, fingers crossed it actually does the trick (otherwise I'll have blown £150 for nothing!)...
Er, best not tell the girlfriend eh?
;)
well, I've only gone and ordered 1gig of sexy ram :P
hopefully put an end to my stuttering deaths :blush:
I used the crucial sites scan, and followed their recommendation....so I hope they got it right :blink:
I'm running 512's in slots 1+2, and will put my new 1gig in slot 3 (if I've read it right, it should still be running dual channel) :unsure:
£85.76 and free far-cry1 dvd :D
QuoteOriginally posted by Blunt@Jul 31 2005, 09:34 AM
£85.76 and free far-cry1 dvd :D
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Patch farcry to version 1.3 or whatever the latest is before you even think about playing it. Then you'll just love it :)
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Jul 31 2005, 10:48 AM
Patch farcry to version 1.3 or whatever the latest is before you even think about playing it. Then you'll just love it :)
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will do ta BB 8)
All patches available here (http://www.ubi.com/US/Downloads/Info.aspx?dlId=691)
1.32 is the latest (you have to apply them in order I'm afraid).
noCD files are avail from usual sources if you don't want to risk scratching your CD putting it in and out of the drive just to play a game :)