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At this point we dont have time to gear up ppl, gear is an issue when we look at our options and time we should only accept ppl with good enough gear for LK seeing we dont reset the instance. so for me it is a NO if the gear is not up for it, we simply dont ahve time to gear him up, and tbh he should be geared much much better if he desire to raid, were is his 251 set? tbh if ppl cant be botherd to use emblems on the set forget it big NO from me

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I must say i agree with Jas but also see the problem in us not doing 25 mans. I suggest keep it locked for now and try to bring in some new ranged dps as we need them for 25 man give it a month as it really make no sense to start with a fresh icc 25 man run at this time so close to cata. I would say either stay at LK for a period of time or dont go at all. remember guys if we have enough for ICC 25 man reset run there should be enough to the LK fight in 25 man, so tbh if the raid suddenly are full when we reset to fresh run, something is deffently wrong if that can happend. so in my view go recruit the last 4 ppl for our raid group and lets kill the ******* as soon as possible. BUT it will require hard work from officers to reqruit new ppl and maybe also in new ways as we have a deadline for next expansion.
NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO SIT IDDLE BY AND HOPE PPL WILL JOIN THE GUILD WE NEED NEW PPL NOW AND FAST IF THIS SHOULD BE POSSIBLE!!!

i'm not social i'm standby atm

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Awsome job all and imba raid night we downed BB queen and one shot PP, that was really skills no doubt good job all.

Sheepy is absolutely correct here.  The answer is to continue to push & recruit more people and to pro-actively recruit more people to raid, not to remove the possibility of any raid.  Cancelling the raids sends precisely the wrong message imo and would fragment the raid group to a point where even 10 mans might become a problem.  

Running a 25 man raid is not easy, it's something that needs continual effort regardless of the progress level, so I would urge raiding to continue and for your efforts to go into solving the problem not removing the potential for the problem to occur.

And also remeber this is my view of the problem.

Sheepy is absolutely correct here.  The answer is to continue to push & recruit more people and to pro-actively recruit more people to raid, not to remove the possibility of any raid.  Cancelling the raids sends precisely the wrong message imo and would fragment the raid group to a point where even 10 mans might become a problem.  

Running a 25 man raid is not easy, it's something that needs continual effort regardless of the progress level, so I would urge raiding to continue and for your efforts to go into solving the problem not removing the potential for the problem to occur.

It is very important to understand that it is the last i want to happen that we stop 25 man raid but it also need to be fair to others and atm it is not.

Sheepy is absolutely correct here.  The answer is to continue to push & recruit more people and to pro-actively recruit more people to raid, not to remove the possibility of any raid.  Cancelling the raids sends precisely the wrong message imo and would fragment the raid group to a point where even 10 mans might become a problem.  

Running a 25 man raid is not easy, it's something that needs continual effort regardless of the progress level, so I would urge raiding to continue and for your efforts to go into solving the problem not removing the potential for the problem to occur.

Yes i agree with you but what does it help if ppl dont turn up tbh i say it is a waste of time, if it is possible to get a steady raid group that has a good attendance and gear/skill then yes we can push on but if we get a raid group like last time we aint going any further then bb queen, pp, sinda, LK left without any chance of downing them and if we finally get a group with right gear and skill WOTLK will be over so tbh either we recruit some more ppl (which has not gone good in last weeks as it was open 1 post, only thanks to TL) or we start new form of recuitment as the way we do now simply dont work good enough/fast enough. Also hearing some bad moods vibes from leemadin toward our 25 man raid which dont have any good impact unless it turn on him. I have nothing against the guy other then some comment about 25 man raids, tbh does he even raid anymore?
TBH we need new ppl and it cant happen fast enough and if it dont happen then it dont happend and we take it from there.

I agree sheep could very will be the outcome which i would not wanna see but on the other hand ppl not turning up in the next month or so will have same result just alot of ppl being online for no raid. but i do hope ppl start to turn up as progress is damn good when we have our group.
might be an idea to push heroic 10 mans instead loot is itm lvl 264, tokens and items are really nice.

Tbh guys i think it might be an idea to cancel all raid for maybe 1 month or 2 because this summer will be hot and i doubt pppl will turn up for the same reason and that is taking a **** on the 10-20 who sign up and are online for raid the 3 times a week they could have done so many other things in life then sit around for ppl not to turn up. so to be fair if it looks like the attendance aint getting better might be best to make a summer break tbh.

Cool thanks TL. please healing classleader look at it and comment, i know we need a disc priest but what does gear vs spec say any good?

hmmm my mate showed me this video of a real funeral held on wow, and then some came and ruined it all worth seeing, i felt sad that it was ruined.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TSGUf1xbF8

Heya guys, i dont think i can make it tonight mate came over for football, gooo Holland.

I say give them 100 dkp after 6-10 raids if they are committed then they can start spend.

heya guys gonna be 5-10 min late tonight