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Started by Gandalf, April 21, 2009, 07:25:49 PM

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smite

Not going to get into a rant about Jim..... if you dont know my views by now your blind :P
 
There isn't anything wrong with the odd change for someone but this has happened quite a few times with virtually the same people. We need to set out some rules for constantly swapping.
 
Also did this just come from Tuesday nights raid being cancelled?
 
Like Garrit i am a little split about it.... If he did it to help the guild Good on him, Did he do it coz he's bored? probably.
 
I don't know anymore im lost :D
 
Also i am going to make my second spec Healer for when were in the crap....backup only in dire situations becasue i have never done it but my main spec will always be a tank.......started the game a tank and will go out a tank.
 
I do talk some **** sometimes..

TeaLeaf

To try to stop this sort of thing in other guilds they often introduce a rule where a role change is actually the loss of your raid spot and you go back to trial.  If Council do not need that spot then a raid spot may not be open so they might lose their place altogether.  Toon changes and role changes need to be approved.  If they are back on trial they have zero loot rights unless stuff is rotting on the corpse.  That seems ot dissuade the loot whores from making such changes regularly.  And he has.

TL.
TL.
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Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

JonnyAppleSeed

Thats the fella for me!  To late to do anything for our jim but somthing maybe worth popping in down the line :D
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Azunai

The thing with that is our rather luxurious position in raiding atm *cough*, where we end up having a spot open - rather than having someone go in his stead - if we don't invite him it'll be our loss, and we would probably end up D/Eing the healer loot if we don't give it to him anyway. ><
or Garrit, or Torgen. Also, Livestream.

TeaLeaf

#19
Action Needed:

Draft & post a rule about the role switching stating that for raiders it is with Council agreement, dependent upon there being a space available and that you lose your 'raider' status and go back to being a trial with no loot priority.  

Restart recruitment.  Fill those spots and get 'more than full' as we all know that not everyone will show up every night.



And finally..... I would think that it might be good to send Jim a PM worded something like this:
Quote from: Council to JimJim

We're glad that you have found an aspect of playing your priest that you enjoy, but would ask that in future if you decide you wish to switch your raid spec that you discuss this with a Council member in advance rather than just post an announcement that we read on the forums.  

The spec that you raid with has a direct impact upon guild management and at times the role you might want to switch to may be full or not required, so your role change might leave you without a raid spot!   It is your character to play with whichever spec you wish, but your raid spot is linked to the raid spec you have and changing your talent/role does not guarantee that there will be a raid spot for the character post-change.

Please give this some though and include Council in your thoughts next time please as if we agree to any role change then we would need time to prepare replacements for the role we are losing and to confirm that we want or need the class role you wish to switch to.  

Thank you.

Council.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)