Amber

[Michelanio]

I'm guessing its cause all good healers are in guilds already witch is a shame since we need them

[TeaLeaf]

I bumped this thread as it is often good to remind ourselves where we were in times gone by - and this is one of those times when I honestly believe we have 'given' enough, 'carried' enough and 'suffered' enough.

As I fraps'd every try last night I was able to extract this gem:

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In terms of the timeline:

-both Terrors were still alive.
-Whytee was getting large stacks and had just called Hal to taunt (hence the little red aggro dot on Hal too), so MT healing requirement was at a maximum
-the UI shows a PoH being cast on Group 1 (the green + healing numbers) at a point when pretty much the whole group is at decent health apart from the under-stress MT who benefits from a 12k PoH and an 8k aegis.
:frusty:

Within 2 seconds we get Whytee's death and we lose our 2nd Heroic Madness kill:

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The raid is clearly not taking huge damage, Whytee clearly *is* taking huge damage and we get a PoH thrown on a group that doesn't need it?   But let's not forget he got an aegis. :angry:

I think the time has come for this to be sorted.  I do not want to do MoP with Amber in RGT.  Sorry, I just do not enjoy him being in RGT when we have to work around him for everything we do.  It hinders us as a team, it disrespects those who do put in the effort and frustrates many of the better performing raid.  At the end of the day there is a limit to how much of a 'social' raid group we are and I think I have reached that limit.  It's not this specific issue, it's just the straw that broke the camel's back.

I'd like us to discuss and agree on a plan for a different healing camp in MoP.

[TeaLeaf]

Irrelevant other than as a corollary to our TS discussions last night during Madness.

Just as you had suspected, Amber did not cast PS on you for Platform 3.   He actually cast it on you in Phase 2 whilst you were tanking the Terrors.  There is no other PS cast for him in the logs at all.  Not exactly a surprise.

[21:11:51.497] Elementium Terror Tetanus Whytee 38759 (A: 19739, R: 40624)
[21:11:51.764] Amberleigh casts Pain Suppression on Whytee

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/zb0uhu8zmtysr09s/xe/?s=6157&e=7035&x=targetName%3D%22Whytee%22&page=30

Ah well, all history now.

[JonnyAppleSeed]

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[JonnyAppleSeed]

Thanks for the PM amber

The problem we had was too many in the pally/priest/warlock we had to make the major cut there.

We were prepared to live with the shammy situation that you point out. We talked about the last healing spot and to get full balance we would (like/not need) a monk. We have TL with an offpec if a priest was needed. The use of offspec will be used a bit more to limit the number of people on the bench. After the chat with ya good self we had the right number of players. 3 full time and 6 possible using offspec. We didnt want to reduce the players anymore but it did open up an option for the heavy shammy section to roll on a monk. We asked them to have a think about it as it will be a big commitment to go from 0-90 very fast. If nobody was to take up the offer then we would live with what we had.

This was all done after our chat so the main point being that we would be 3 healers and using offspec healz  if nobody wants to change. I can see where you are coming from. We removed you as a healer then put someone else in. This is not the case. We needed to loose a priest healer. Any other changes were only offered to the shammys but if they didnt take them up we would stick with what we had

Regards the class balance in general we have just about everything coverd with offspec

As an example 2 pally tanks but we also have guru/zaul if needed ... whitey has his healing os if needed. Its like that across the board. If needed the options are there but not obvious (apart from a boomkin and i may end up being that if needed

I do appreciate your PM and fully understand the confusion. I hope this clears it up a little.

Add to.... cut away... re do ...... the floor is open

[Whitey]

You missed the bit on the bottom about him causing more wipes than anyone else but other than that....looks good to me

[TeaLeaf]

Works for me, well done Jas, thanks

[JonnyAppleSeed]

Sent ... hope its enough

the reply

Thanks for the info jas, i was just wondering about the shammy camp, and that by having a monk in their ranks, that it would put further pressure upon the tier fight

Having you go boomkin, oh dear, not a good thing, jas as a insane fluffykins let loose /FLEE !

Nice of you to explain the situation tho, as i hadn't realised how far you were really trimming the raid group, and utilising the off spec roles within the raid environment.

As for Mists, i really don't know what is going to happen with myself, another year into my degree, and having to put more time into research, so this may benefit myself more than the raid group

I really hope this go well for both raid groups when mists comes out, and like i said, i will give it my all, as i did with RGT.

All the best

Steve

sound nice and positive

[TeaLeaf]

TLC time for Amber please and this info is in confidence.

Just so people are aware, he had a nightmare of an night.  A nephew of his (just turned 18) went off the edge, got in a fight at a pub, got beaten up,  then went back to the pub & grabbed a kitchen knife and stabbed the guy who beat him up in the neck.   Threatened violence on Amber's sister, Amber's Mum, Amber & the whole family.   Amber is real shook up.   The nephew is now in custody, the stabee is in intensive care and Amber is in shock.

Hug him some when you see him please and treat him carefully.

[JonnyAppleSeed]

bugger me ...