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Started by OldBloke, March 06, 2006, 08:39:00 PM

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JonnyAppleSeed

Maybe in this case the loop was not big enough  :D
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OldBloke

It was a tough call. The 'loop' had only just been created. The creation of the new structure and appointments therein meant that the previous band of admins (most of whom were inactive) were relegated to bog-standard users. The best people active in their sections were appointed by the Section Admins to replace them (that's you lot by the way).

A lesson has been learnt. Now onwards and upwards.
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Anonymous

QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Mar 6 2006, 11:47 PM
I think you summation of what I said to you is a little harsh BB, what I said is below.

If you are referring to my response to some of the public posts then again i have to disagree. I thought I was quite reserved when I could have gone OTT. It's like some members think that the forums should only be for BF2 and anything else is an interruption of their lifestyle. The commands exist on the forum to read things very easily - we don't have to go out of our way to placate people, just to explain the role of the community - indeed where this has happened some have subsequently said 'ah yes, I see your point, you're right'.

And when you get people like Doggers taking regular potshots I really feel something needs to be said.

TL.
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Sorry TL but my perception of your response was that you were being completely dismissive. I don't know how you meant it but thats how I percieve. Not your problem or mine just how things are.

I'm glad for you that you find it easy to wade through all this stauff. I came home tonight to find another 3 pages of posts most of which are irrelevant to me. I think that the irony of this seems to be lost on some people. Many are saying "we just ignore the posts" I'm saying we can use the forum software to ignore the posts rather than having to do it manually.

Community, mmm. A reasonable number of the community were not happy with what was happening but their voice was ignored! I don't call that community.

I don't believe this has been handled well and I blame myself for that. When you first broached the idea I should have insisted then that as it was such a big change the opinion of the community should have been sought, after all we are here for their benefit not the other way around. Regrettably I didn't think to do so so I offer my apologies to all that were affected by this.

Vincentvega

isnt there a way of sort of subscribing to the relavent forums that you want ......? :unsure:
oops just read on another page about a similar question...sorry :blush:
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TeaLeaf

There is, it's called changing the forum software.  We're looking at doing that at the moment.

BB, it was brand spanking new, bound to have initial teething issues and I had not had a single comment or complaint at the point we spoke.  So my comment was hardly so dismissive as to cause your posts.  

The 'community' is currently split - the poll even shows the split in opinion.  Should we immediately use this as a basis for immediate change in the community and plit it into 4 separate forums for CZ, BF2, DMR and WoW?  No.  Give it time to settle, we don't need to throw anything out with the bath water by making hasty changes that we will later regret.

As for your regrets, well 20/20 is always helpful and yes it would have been nice to hear them form you beforehand rather than in the public forums.  That's why we posted up the ideas a month ago for feedback, I too am sorry that this was not what we got.

Ignoring all this, we need to move forward.  Posting levels will drop, people will learn to use the technology to avoid reading posts they don't want to read and we will upgrade/change the forum software to to help people do this, but we need to calm down and give things time to settle.  A challenge is not a threat, it's an opportunity.

TL.
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Anonymous

You know TL, I don't think you know how to say "I was at fault too"!

As you said, the point was discussed, however neither did you suggest that we bring it to the community. You do say you are sorry but it is written in a way that expresses disappointment that others didn't give you what you need rather than" I could have done something about it too"

Your post has just made up my mind for me on my course of action regarding my earlier PM.

Hippy

I have no problem with the SoG migration. WoW doesn't concern me (that might be due to the fact i have no intrest in casting spells.)

I use the 'new posts' tab and it is a bit daunting when there's 3 pages, but a quick skim reveals theres only 2-3 that i might read.

Vincentvega

QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Mar 7 2006, 07:01 PM
You know TL, I don't think you know how to say "I was at fault too"!

As you said, the point was discussed, however neither did you suggest that we bring it to the community. You do say you are sorry but it is written in a way that expresses disappointment that others didn't give you what you need rather than" I could have done something about it too"

Your post has just made up my mind for me on my course of action regarding my earlier PM.
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well fancy posting something as intriguing as that and not spilling the beans :(
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