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Started by TeaLeaf, June 21, 2006, 09:54:30 PM

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TeaLeaf

We agreed:

- warn RG1 slackers
- when response in then raise the attendance bar (final height to be discussed)
- those unable to meet attendance requirement politely removed from RG1
- make discrete exemptions for 'job shares'
- recruit direct to RG1
- agree minimum spec requirements for entry into RG1
- announce we not planning to recruit from RG2 to keep RG2 intact and to get continuity
- announce raid break over the SoG Meet week
- discuss with Deadlyspirit the possibility of an RG2 minimum attendance standard
- announce a halt to raiding during the SoG Meet week

I'm feeling that I forgot something - but I cannot remember what.  Remind me and we'll draft things.

TL.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Bastet

talk to rg2 about some attendance minimum too, cause i think deadly wants some way to hold ppl to raid.
Aszune (Alliance):
Sokhar lv 80 (H/M) Warrior, Sokhár lv 80 (H/M) Death Knight, Beset lv 70 (NE/F) Druid, Bastet lv 70 (NE/F) Rogue, Mentu lv 70 (Dr/M) Shaman
-=[dMw]=-Bastet (CSS) / -=[dMw]=-Niwa (BF2) / -=dMw=- Sokhar (BF2142)
-=[dMw]=- MVP Award Holder (June 2006) Winning team -=[dMw]=- Christmas Crunch (2008)

Padding

Looks fine to me, i'll ponder some more on the subject, but i think we should consider asking the specific classes (like paladins) if they think they can manage the extra raids, or we'll just bump the attendance to higher for that specific class. I dont believe f.ex. that spiritus or vehanna's attendance is gonna pick up suddenly and that leaves just me, ekzete, secohan and marduk to fill 5 spots, and thats impossible.


Vargen

QuoteOriginally posted by Padding@Jun 21 2006, 11:28 PM
Looks fine to me, i'll ponder some more on the subject, but i think we should consider asking the specific classes (like paladins) if they think they can manage the extra raids, or we'll just bump the attendance to higher for that specific class. I dont believe f.ex. that spiritus or vehanna's attendance is gonna pick up suddenly and that leaves just me, ekzete, secohan and marduk to fill 5 spots, and thats impossible.
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You better put on some weight Padding  :P
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Padding

You havent seen me have you? i have plenty of weight thank you very much


TeaLeaf

..........I remembered: Announce that we are not raiding for the week of the SoG meet.  I added it to the above list and will try to flesh it out into a post later.

TL.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Padding

Nice.... i'll try to comment on it later, but might not be online tonight


TeaLeaf

Ok, I just blew a chunk of time making the above bullet points 'wordy', so here's draft 1.  It needs some stuff added (like dates) but at least it is a starting point.  Comments please.

TL.
QuoteAttendance Problem
The Officers have identified an attendance problem recently (particularly but not exclusively within RG1) and have monitored attendance now for several months. The survey issued to members in early May provided feedback that attendance was due to improve dramatically in early/mid June and this has not happened as we still have attendance problems.

Attendance Action
We are writing to all those RG1 members who are failing to meet the attendance requirements and will ask them to either improve their attendance with immediate effect or to request a change in Guild rank. If no response is forthcoming we will write to them one final time and warn that a non-response will lead to the loss of their Guardian rank so that we can resolve the attendance issue. Those unable to meet attendance requirement will be politely removed from RG1.

RG1 Attendance Requirement
RG1 sets high raid standards and as such we feel that now is the right time to raise the bar. We are now asking all Guardian members to meet a higher attendance standard to help us plan successful raids. Details will be announced shortly and if you anticipate having any trouble meeting these standards then please let us know immediately so that we can discuss your position with you.

RG2 Attendance Requirement
Due to the problems experienced RG2 is now considering whether or not to bring in some form of attendance requirement. Officers are currently discussing this and more information will follow shortly.

Raid Holiday â€" RG1 & RG2
Many members are meeting up for the week beginning Sunday 2nd July and we are therefore suspending all raiding activity for the period Sunday 2nd July to Thursday 6th July inclusive. Raiding will resume on Sunday 9th July 2006.

RG1 Recruitment
As RG2 develops the Officers have identified that one of the threats to RG2’s progress is that RG1 will periodically ‘steal’ RG2’s best raiders when RG1 has any openings. This will impact upon RG2 stability and progress and is not fair on other RG2 members. Whilst this ‘sharing’ of members between raid groups has worked well for us to date we are now of the opinion that we need to provide RG2 with more stability. With this in mind we are considering opening RG1 recruitment to non-Guild members (instead of RG2 members only) and increasing the requirements for any new RG1 member significantly. The precise requirements are to be decided and more information will follow.

The Officers have spent considerable time discussing the above and we hope that the information provided helps explain the action we are taking to solve the attendance problems and to help both raid groups progress further through the end-game instances.

Vargen
Guild Master
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Vargen

For me at least, I will be flying down on Saterday the 1st of Juli and back up on Wednesday the 5th.
So raiding should be able to resume as normal, either on Thursday 6th or Sunday 9th.
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TeaLeaf

Those dates edited into the post.  I assume the rest is ok as you didn't comment on it! :norty:

TL.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Bastet

looks okee though i would like to see more details in this post allready about the attendance.
Aszune (Alliance):
Sokhar lv 80 (H/M) Warrior, Sokhár lv 80 (H/M) Death Knight, Beset lv 70 (NE/F) Druid, Bastet lv 70 (NE/F) Rogue, Mentu lv 70 (Dr/M) Shaman
-=[dMw]=-Bastet (CSS) / -=[dMw]=-Niwa (BF2) / -=dMw=- Sokhar (BF2142)
-=[dMw]=- MVP Award Holder (June 2006) Winning team -=[dMw]=- Christmas Crunch (2008)

TeaLeaf

Well, that's the bit we need to agree and did not finalise.  So what's it going to be? 3/4?  4/5? 5/6?  

TL.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Padding

Definately 3/4 for me. Thats really the only thing i think i can commit to.


lunares

The draft looks fine.

About the attendance i would say 8 or 9 out of 10.

Lunares
When you feel yourself sinking into madness..... Dive!

Bastet

i wouldnt take out of 10, i would take out of 9, since thats a 3 week window, and my pref would go to 7 or 8. and for RG2 4 out of 6.
Aszune (Alliance):
Sokhar lv 80 (H/M) Warrior, Sokhár lv 80 (H/M) Death Knight, Beset lv 70 (NE/F) Druid, Bastet lv 70 (NE/F) Rogue, Mentu lv 70 (Dr/M) Shaman
-=[dMw]=-Bastet (CSS) / -=[dMw]=-Niwa (BF2) / -=dMw=- Sokhar (BF2142)
-=[dMw]=- MVP Award Holder (June 2006) Winning team -=[dMw]=- Christmas Crunch (2008)