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Ashjen · August 23, 2006, 01:58:10 AM

kk my problem is that i have a 3 shift work. morning shift , evening shift, night shift. now if i happen to have a evening shift = 13 game time to 21 game time. i get to home 21.45 ish. and the problem is that on these evening shift days when i can only get into raid at 21.45 should there be space (last 2 raids there was) its impossible for me to reach required attendance, if i wont be allowed to get attendance from any other than the FIRST one hour of raiding.

now i was checking if i could get a rule change on this? to help a loyal and dedicated RG1 member keep hes attendance up. to THAT of 1-2h in raid at any time = attendance ! or something like this. after all i would have never taken this job unless theyd pay so damned good. and i did try living on bread water and air for 6 months while having like 95% attendance (not taking a real job to keep raiding which resulted me quitting wow forawhile becos of poor lifestyle)
but sadly we cant all be fed by our parents til we are 40 years old, thus i have to work but i am trying my utmost to keep my attendance up and you guys should know enough of me by now i never give a raid more or less than 100% when i am there. so plx officers could ya help me out plz?

any input from any member/s would be appreciated as in what you think about if that rule should be slightly changed. thanks in advance

TeaLeaf · August 23, 2006, 07:23:59 AM

It's a raid topic, so I've moved it to the Raiding section for Members to comment.

TL.

Ashjen · August 23, 2006, 09:27:23 AM

Thanks i wasnt certain where to post but this works

Marduk · August 23, 2006, 03:32:28 PM

Hmm this sort of brings up the two sides of this story
Yes i want to keep Ashjen as a raiding member, and we do not always need 40 people from the beginning of the raid to make good progress if a few people would join in later for the harder bosses like ragnaros / nef / chrommy that will work, and i guess the dkp they miss out on for the first bosses will work out to keep the "reward and efford input" balanced

but the problem will be if one member gets to do this, so could others and i would hate to be online and ready at 19:15 and only have 20 people to start BWL with so if we will say give a full attendance point if you are in the raid for a certain amount of time we would also have to work something out that would make sure enough members to be online from the start

Umbra · August 23, 2006, 03:40:57 PM

oh! I never realised that attendance was a binary yes or no thing per raid, I thought it was worked out per hour, so if i am in a BWL raid for 2 hours out of 5 i get 40% attendance at that point and so on, it might be more complicated but it certainly fixes the problem, you get attendance for what you did, otherwise people in the queue don't get attendance at all even if they raid for 5 hours.

This way people who leave early don't get full attendance either, so if you are only ther for 1 hour of one 4 hour raid, 2 hours of next 4 hour raid, then 4 hours of next 4 hour raid, then that week you made 7 hours out of 16 = 43.75% , sort of like phone bills being charged per minute or per second, it could be taken down to number of seconds raiding but i'm not THAT anal, 1 or half hour chunks would work out well, in Ashjens case, he may only get an hour or two per night but it should make everyone happy

Padding · August 23, 2006, 03:41:56 PM

QuoteHmm this sort of brings up the two sides of this story
Yes i want to keep Ashjen as a raiding member, and we do not always need 40 people from the beginning of the raid to make good progress if a few people would join in later for the harder bosses like ragnaros / nef / chrommy that will work, and i guess the dkp they miss out on for the first bosses will work out to keep the "reward and efford input" balanced

but the problem will be if one member gets to do this, so could others and i would hate to be online and ready at 19:15 and only have 20 people to start BWL with so if we will say give a full attendance point if you are in the raid for a certain amount of time we would also have to work something out that would make sure enough members to be online from the start

This pretty much sums up my thought also... i say we recruit 1 more hunter to fill up the hunter spot, and let Ashjen hang in there to eventually have some better raid times

Adularena · August 23, 2006, 03:58:18 PM

Maybe I misunderstood "recruit" but do you mean promote a RG2 hunter or get a new guildie?

Padding · August 23, 2006, 04:00:32 PM

QuoteMaybe I misunderstood "recruit" but do you mean promote a RG2 hunter or get a new guildie?

New guildie.... we are lacking 1 hunter in RG1 AFAIK

Adularena · August 23, 2006, 04:06:11 PM

why? you promote a RG2 surely and fill the spots from "behind"?
you risk having ppl leave to apply again for Rg1 lol

like, use the veterans the RG2 creates to reinforce the frontlines?

Marduk · August 23, 2006, 05:19:47 PM

Quotewhy? you promote a RG2 surely and fill the spots from "behind"?
you risk having ppl leave to apply again for Rg1 lol

like, use the veterans the RG2 creates to reinforce the frontlines?

you mean like pluck the best rg2 people for rg1 so we make a bit faster progress maybe and leave rg2 to sort out the mess and not be able to make any progress?

better to look outside the guild unless they have a hunter to much

Manny · August 23, 2006, 05:25:22 PM

Almost every evening we have 7 hunters, so we arnt short of hunters duk

Siffredi · August 23, 2006, 07:08:24 PM

But noone from RG2 are allowed to move to RG1 - and it isent an upgrade anyway

- RG2 will be picking up some pace in BWL dont worry

Soulbringerx · August 23, 2006, 09:47:00 PM

Don't see the problem of Ash getting in a bit later we can manage till he gets online we got balls enuff i should say :flirty:

Neff · August 23, 2006, 10:53:07 PM

Quotenow i was checking if i could get a rule change on this? to help a loyal and dedicated RG1 member keep hes attendance up. to THAT of 1-2h in raid at any time = attendance ! or something like this. after all i would have never taken this job unless theyd pay so damned good. and i did try living on bread water and air for 6 months while having like 95% attendance (not taking a real job to keep raiding which resulted me quitting wow forawhile becos of poor lifestyle)
but sadly we cant all be fed by our parents til we are 40 years old, thus i have to work but i am trying my utmost to keep my attendance up and you guys should know enough of me by now i never give a raid more or less than 100% when i am there. so plx officers could ya help me out plz?

Give 1 guy special treatment, give the 100 other raiders special treatment. You're an hardcore raider, but gettin into who deserves what isn't any of our buisness. Depends on the eye that sees. But a question comes up to mind , would you really take the spot of someone else, "just" because you (in your opinion) have contributed more than anybody else? Is that fair?

Ashjen · August 24, 2006, 05:09:08 AM

hmm whos spot m8? if the raid is not full, ofc il get in the raid on my own spot as rg1 member ..:blink: maybe i misunderstood something just got off nightshift its 7 am :S and i didnt once ask for any special treatment did i say that? i asked for a rule change or something similar this would mean it applies to everyone. but i can see how damaging it is if we have half the ppl logging in later just for the loot ;/ bah humanity sucks we should all be cows.