Deliberate Aim or General Direction

Started by Zootoxin, April 30, 2008, 11:00:55 AM

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Zootoxin

Hi guys I have been having problems with CS lately in terms of the damage I am causing if at all.

A brief example of this - On Aztec the T was crouched and planting at B I came through the double doors stopped and began emptying my MP5 into the back of the T

Dead Meat... you would think but he stopped planting selected his Deagle and blew my head off!

This was not an isolated incident but highlights my problem.

I have messed about with rates/choke etc makes no difference so I have started to review my gameplay, maybe I am just doing something wrong??

One thing i would like to know is how you guys aim as I tend to fire in the general direction of the enemy because I dont feel there is enough time to zero in.

Emptying a clip into an enemy without killing them is seriously affecting how much fun I was having playing cs.

Cheers

V

Dr Sadako

Well, most of it have been covered here (for bravo and above) but I would give the following tips.

  • always keep your aim in head/neck height.
  • aim where you would expect the enemy to show up or common camping spots.
  • Short bursts (1-3 bullets) and use full auto only in close combat.
  • Avoid running and shooting if possible (improves accuracy)
  • Crouch if you want to improve accuracy.
  • always keep your aim in head/neck height.
  • always keep your aim in head/neck height. (I don't think I can stress this enough!)
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DuVeL

Wow, 4 vs me...
Must say that I aim automaticly usually.
As Sheepy once said while watching me at a LAN deeagletourney;
"He doesn't even aim!"
 
If aiming; Neckhight. Recoil does the rest.
 
Must say; I've had the same thing you're talking about aswell.
Directly behind someone and still hardly no damage.
I reckon it's the hitboxes on CSS.
 
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Dr Sadako

Using the crosshair hack helps ofc. :flirty:
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Dr Sadako

This might help (based on my own feel of it)

Accuracy - = less, + = improved

Climbing on ladder --(-)
Jumping --
Running -
Walking, Standing still +
Crouching ++


Single shot +
Short burst 0
Long burst -
Full auto short range --
Full auto long range --- (spread will be larger)

So if you are running and full auto you will have ----
Crouching single shot +++
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Jamoe

#5
Edit: I think what Venom is asking for is the mental/physical process we go through to aim at an enemy. Some people will be better then others, hand/eye co-ordination and youthful reactions can make some look like cheaters.


I think your first step is to be more deliberate in your aiming. As Doc/Duvel says always get their head/neck inside the crosshair. Get into the habit of keeping you crosshair up and stop going full auto/general direction.

CSS hitboxes are fairly accurate, this isnt BF2 ;)

Don't sacrifice aiming for a quicker response/reaction, it's obviously not working for you. Get the aiming sorted first, make it second nature to aim for the head and then let the reaction time come naturally as you improve, it will imporve the more you play. I tend to find my mood and alertness have a big impact on my reaction time, but I'm always fairly consistent with my aiming.

Try this by yourself, start your own server, stand about 10ft away from a wall and shoot once making the bullet decal (start with a pistol). Use the bullet decal as your target, now strafing left and right try and keep your cross hair over the original bullet decal while firing. Don't worry about where your bullets are landing this exercise is about getting use to moving your crosshair over a small target.

How well did you fair? Are you struggling with mouse sensitivity?

Have a look at this guide I found some time ago, I spent a lot of time tweaking my mouse setup after buying a Razer Copperhead. It changed CSS for me. (infact I need to go through this again)

http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=21189&highlight=mouse+sensitivity


Lastly Practice, Practice, Practice, Get on a GunGame (pref a respawning one), but don't play the game, just practice aiming. I spent a good amount of time experimenting and getting a feel for it. Although I don't really play gungame anymore it did get me back into CSS and back on the hook.

Salvatore Buttafacio

Good comments above me but I'll some random stuff :)

  • Buy a decent mouse! got my razer deathadder just before the lan and apart from the sexy glow distracting me whilst I'm ingame, I find my aim is more consistent and alot smoother.
  • Try play some aim_maps on random servers. Aim_aztec, aim_headshot and aim_usp are decent maps without mods like gungame that helped me improve my aim alot.
  • Try playing at a low sensitivity?. It takes some getting used to as it can take 2 mouse mats to turn around at first but your aim at long distance in particular improves looooads. Mine is still pretty low but i find i can turn just as fast with quick hand movement and keep my long range aiming.
  • get rid of mouse acceleration incase you still use it! tis rubbish, took me ages to convince toxteth to get rid of his.
  • use the ak47 to practice your single shot/small bursting and aiming for the head:boxing:



Jamoe

#7
Quote from: Salvatore Buttafacio;230322Try playing at a low sensitivity?. It takes some getting used to as it can take 2 mouse mats to turn around at first but your aim at long distance in particular improves looooads. Mine is still pretty low but i find i can turn just as fast with quick hand movement and keep my long range aiming.

It does take some getting use to, mine in CSS is below 1.0 if I remember correctly. I think the trick is to use your arm(elbow) for big movements and wrist for the accuracy.

Quote from: Salvatore Buttafacio;230322get rid of mouse acceleration incase you still use it! tis rubbish, took me ages to convince toxteth to get rid of his.


That's one of the points in the guide I posted above :) Do it now!

Jewelz^

Strafing
2 steps left 2 right shoot in the middle for long range
Short range SPRAY! :)
 
Jewelz^ frame of mind there :D

Penfold

I've been tinkering with an FPS Banana Script which reduces the sensitivity only when you press the fire button.

I.e. if sensitivity is set to 6, when you press fire the mouse sensitivity is reduced to 1 and then back to 6 when you stop.

If anyone's interested............

Anonymous

Quote from: Dr Sadako;230318This might help (based on my own feel of it)

Accuracy - = less, + = improved

Climbing on ladder --(-)
Jumping --
Running -
Walking, Standing still +
Crouching ++


Single shot +
Short burst 0
Long burst -
Full auto short range --
Full auto long range --- (spread will be larger)

So if you are running and full auto you will have ----
Crouching single shot +++


Drinking: initially ++ but eventually becomes -----------------------

delanvital

Quote from: BlueBall;230343Drinking: initially ++ but eventually becomes -----------------------

Sooo true :D

Jabbs

#12
Here's my twopennyworth:

1. Get a decent mouse and have its 'resolution' 'AS HIGH AS POSSIBLE! (My G5 is on top setting).

2. Have ingame sensitivity AS LOW AS POSSIBLE (like Jamoe, mine is at 1 or 0.8 something like that).  This means aim stays where you mean it while pressing that mouse button.  Let's face it, pressing the mouse button is obviously prone to mouse movement 'off target' so the less movement while pressing mouse is GOOD.

Two things however changed my success drastically:

1. I have two decent mice, one a Microsoft Habu which is no doubt a good mouse in that the way you are supposed to hold it (relaxed hand) means that your finger can be flat across the button rather than the tip of finger on button.  This is ok for some people but for me I kept 'pressing' too hard/deliberately to fire which meant the mouse crosshair would move off target.  The whole point about aiming is to have steady aim 'on the target'  Would you agree? :eyebrow:

2.  The whole point about aiming is to be focussed on the target as I said above.  The second thing that has helped me DRASTICALLY is the crosshair size.  I set mine VERY VERY small like this:

cl_crosshair_size "10000"

This means that I am more focussed on the targets (head) rather than the crosshair!!!!!!  Try it, don't say to yourself: "OMG I cant use that!".  Try it for a while first! :D

EDIT: Thought I would add this although I don't use it at the moment:

zoom_sensitivity_ratio "0.78"

I guess this means mouse sensitivity is lowered to 0.78 while in zoom mode on Scout for example
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Zootoxin

Thanks for all the tips guys :)

One thing I know is my mouse now appears to be far to sensative I have it at 5.3 EEEEKK!!! so I will reduce it asap.

Somethings I already do ie small crosshair but I sometimes wonder what the best colour is?

Jamoe :  I will be working through the mouse settings thing over the weekend as its very extensive.

So basically I am back in training as I feel I need to raise my game to improve enjoyment on the dMw servers.

Thanks again for all the tips :)

Dr Sadako

Quote from: Venom;230365Thanks for all the tips guys :)

One thing I know is my mouse now appears to be far to sensative I have it at 5.3 EEEEKK!!! so I will reduce it asap.

Mine is at 8.0 ... :byebye:
-=[dMw]=-Dr "Doc" Sadako

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