Last Stand Perk

[Salvatore Buttafacio]

Sorry but a small "moan" incoming so look away if your not in the mood :byebye:

Good games tonight on cod4 server . But one thing that I still find abit irritating about cod is the perk: Last Stand.

There is nothing more annoying then having a 1 vs 1 in say, Search and Destroy mode when your the last guys left on your team... You sneak up behind the other guy, shoot him in the back and win the round for your team and get the glory!
But no! they turn round and fire 1 weak, silenced peeshooter bullet into your kneecap and you lose the round :sad::crying:

If the perk martydom isin't allowed (for tking mainly I know) I also think Last Stand should go as it is equally frustrating.

I think i've missed or forgotten some key point to my argument but the jist of it is there! Any thoughts? anyone disagree? (armitage will i know, he always gets me with it the bugger!:P)

[Doorman]

Make sure they're properly dead. Or pay the consequences :norty:

[***Freestyler***]

I disagree.
 Having that perk is invaluable. Just cos it annoys you dont mean it shouldnt be on there.

Its a game, whats the point of playing it if we take out all the things in it?
Get a grip and stop bloody moaning.
We all aint as great and glorious as you, so these little things you hate... actually help us n00bs out.

It starts with "moan last stand moan" then "moan claymores moan" and then "moan HE nades moan"  b4 u know it...we're play cod4 without any killing.

Tbh iv lost interest in playing on our servers cos people moan too much about these tiny little things.
I like most members but some just seem like boring farts.

Right im vented out

Peace

[DogMeat]

:withstupid:

[Salvatore Buttafacio]

I was merely asking for people opinions, to see if anyone felt the same as me about it.

sorry i spoke. i'll keep my opinions to myself from now on then i suppose.

such hostility, and you say its only a game... :blink:

[GhostMjr]

I found this a little irritating too.

[Penfold]

I find Last stand irritating but it's all part of the game. We've only removed one aspect - Martyrdom - which I can't see anyone disagreeing with as it tends to wipe out your own team.

Free, your response was totally unjustified. it's fine to disagree but your post is bang out of order . :eyebrow:

PEN

[Doorman]

I find Last stand irritating but it's all part of the game. We've only removed one aspect - Martyrdom - which I can't see anyone disagreeing with as it tends to wipe out your own team.

Free, your response was totally unjustified. it's fine to disagree but your post is bang out of order . :eyebrow:

PEN

I have to stand up and be counted here. To my mind Freestyler's (without the silly asterisks ) response was robust. He didn't use any profanities, he said what he meant. This is still England and free speech is still allowed. A more PC reply would not have got over his point at all. This is not a church guild, this is a grown up forum.

For what it's worth, I like the last stand. Not many things as satisfying as killing someone who left you for dead. :norty: If you're used to 'boom! headshot!' kind of ownage then it would be extremely irritating not to have done the job properly.

[Dr Sadako]

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For what it's worth, I like the last stand. Not many things as satisfying as killing someone who left you for dead. :norty: If you're used to 'boom! headshot!' kind of ownage then it would be extremely irritating not to have done the job properly.

I think that the last stand perk is too powerful when combined with HC mode. As Butta said, you can shoot someone point blank from behind with a high power rifle and then they swivel around (like a breakdancer) on the ground and shoot one shot in you with a less powerful gun and you are dead. I find that unrealistic. Still, it is easy to keep shooting an extra second to finish them off.

I disagree.
 Having that perk is invaluable. Just cos it annoys you dont mean it shouldnt be on there.

Its a game, whats the point of playing it if we take out all the things in it?
Get a grip and stop bloody moaning.
We all aint as great and glorious as you, so these little things you hate... actually help us n00bs out.

It starts with "moan last stand moan" then "moan claymores moan" and then "moan HE nades moan" b4 u know it...we're play cod4 without any killing.

Tbh iv lost interest in playing on our servers cos people moan too much about these tiny little things.
I like most members but some just seem like boring farts.

Right im vented out

Peace

You are free to disagree and if you don't want to play here it is up to you. No one is forcing you. Still, the CoD4 server is still in its cradle and we were asked by OldBloke to make comments and suggestions to the server settings to get it right. You are not helping the situation by calling people "moaners" or "boring farts".

Sure you can argue that it is part of the game and we should include everything even martyrdom. An extension of that train if thought could be to have no weapons restrictions at all in CS. Bring back the AWP and the autosniper.
Why not forget about the boundaries? It is not part of the game so why have them! Use airstrikes directly at round start against enemy spawn ...
When Racing run into the opponent from behind to ruin their position. Steal money from other guilds banks by posing as members alts.
However, that is not how we think or play in dMw.

When we play games it is about fairness, teamwork and fun but also about balance. Perks like martyrdom and last stand could take the fun out of it and we could lose players. This doesn't mean that we will take them out but it is our obligation as admins to hear out and discuss potential problems in our supported games. If we have the possibility to fix or modify to reduce those potential problems we do so, usually by rules.

[Soon Jung]

I dont like last stand when I get killed by it. But I love it when I use it :narnar:

Just shoot them one extra time in the noggin, just to be sure You got the skillzzzz Butta

[Penfold]

To kill someone with a Last Stand Perk you just need to shoot them again right? Does it need to be a headshot or anything or just a single body hit?

PEN

[Doorman]

.....I find that unrealistic....

Of course it's unrealistic, it's a game! Unrealistic is also leaping out from behind a wall taking nanoseconds to aim and get a headshot from 500 metres with a deagle!
:angry:

[Doorman]

To kill someone with a Last Stand Perk you just need to shoot them again right? Does it need to be a headshot or anything or just a single body hit?

PEN

You simply have to KILL them. Leave a bit of health and it can be utilised to good effect. :norty:

[target]

Ouch, Free, a bit strong but I do understand the sentiment.
 
To be honest, the perks can be frustrating (I used to hate Claymores, now I hate the Dead Silence perk), however they are part of the game and can be "managed" (for want of a better word).
 
Calling in a heli when playing 2v2 or air striking spawn at round start are other examples of where the game allows you to do things that aren't the dMw way.
 
But hey, its all part of the game.
 
Butta, no need to keep your opinions to yourself - just remember we don't all have the reactions of greased lightning and have to take our (little) victories where we can get them
 

When we play games it is about fairness, teamwork and fun but also about balance. Perks like martyrdom and last stand could take the fun out of it and we could lose players

Doc, while I agree with you on the way we play I don't agree that perks like Martyrdom or Last Stand will drive people away - if people really are that concerned by those two perks (which means they can't use others which can be equally annoying) then they better not play on publics where those perks are really prevalent.
 
My 2p

[BrotherTobious]

I have no objections to it and yes I can see frustration it happens to me.  But now I just spend a little more time making sure that the target is down, which is usual another bullet or clip depending if they have stab me in that game.

In all it is just a perk used to get more score to get to the higher lvl imo. If people are using it after they got it, then they are missing out on other things which could be more useful.  And that's the difference we all play differently and makes it so exicting.

I am for keeping it in but if the powers that be (all of us) deciede not to have it then I wont be unhappy.  Just means more bullets for the rest of you

my 2p