Rock, Paper, Shotgun - Elite: dangerous

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Tutonic

That review makes it sound like a less-interesting version of EVE. I think I'll wait until SC comes out of hibernation....
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Sneakytiger

OMG talk about ripping apart a game,dont think they had a good thing to say about it.
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Quote from: Sneakytiger;393818OMG talk about ripping apart a game,dont think they had a good thing to say about it.

QuoteNow, it is evident from my hundreds of hours in the cockpit, as well as a space diary of about 14,000 words, that I love Elite: Dangerous. But love is complicated, because while I think it is excellent, I also think it is obviously incomplete.

It is actually an interesting and fairly balanced read, but you need to read through it all to fully get what the reviewer is saying. He isn't ripping Elite apart, as he often acknowledges the positives and just how much he has enjoyed his time with the game. What he is doing is being fair to it, giving praise where praise is due and critique where it falls short.

Its a good read!

QuoteThe game is at its finest when you set your own challenges: pirate a Type-9, reach the Horsehead Nebula, smuggle slaves into a Federation port. If, hearing these possibilities, you can already see yourself flipping switches and tenderly pressing buttons on a flight stick, then I have no problem recommending it to you. I just feel everyone should be aware of what they’re getting when they buy Elite. The best unfinished game of last year.
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OldBloke

I thought it was an excellent review that mirrored a lot of my thoughts about the game.
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smilodon

Read with interest and I think I'll pass, especially if it's a fair review. I can play all kinds of great single player games but if I'm playing a multiplayer then I want to spend 90% of my time in the company of friends. That is what gave Battlestar Galactica such legs. It was a terrible game but a great way to spend time gaming with friends.
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TeaLeaf

I posted the link then got distracted by work and never got to read the article! I'll try to catch up tomorrow......!

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BrotherTobious

From the official website wings apperently arriving March. But we have done so capital battles together I still really loving the game.

Was the with sparko Albert sneaky. Listening to sisters of mercy, blowing the living shite out of anything that's moved.

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ArithonUK

Elite is a pretty solid game, but missing some fairly critical  co-operative multi-play elements. RPS painted it as a totally boring,  empty game that was bug-ridden and broken.

It read like a hatchet-job. Albert commented (and I have to agree) there is no way the reviewer had all the errors he claimed. We've both played the game considerably more than the reviewer and only seen some of them. He simply trawled the forums for negative comments and compiled them as his own. That's a certainty, since some of the errors pre-date and were fixed by the release version he was reviewing. Forum gripe compilation album.

Every aspect of the game was portrayed in a negative context. I guess Frontier didn't give RPS whatever it was they asked for.

smilodon

|t does confuse us non players. I'm not really sure what type of game Elite actually is. Bugs aside, every game has those to a degree, is Elite a game where you log in, say Hi to your mates and then ship out to hunt pirates, mine ore, explore and trade as a lone enterprise or maybe occasionally with a friend if you can find them and get in the right 'instance' with them? Is the only real interaction through Team Speak? If this is a fair description then to me it sounds like a glorious single player game. It might be worth a punt if there are no further subscription payments and no must have in game costs that fund servers. If it's a glorified original Elite, Tachyon the Drive, Freelancer or Wing Commander game then I resent paying any form of subscription or regular micro payment. Why not play it off line and be done with it or at best host a server at dMw for Arma like collaborative missions?

However if you do collaborate in game and share resources and spoils "I can see you all on the galactic map and am heading over to your system, hang on." "Here's some extra missiles for your ship, open up your cargo doors." "Here's some of the ore we mined last night after you had to log off." then it sounds great and I want to sign up. If I can create a character and carve out a career and a life in Elite dangerous then great. A multiplayer game should be that, a shared experience. I know I am spoilt by the SC promises, but I want to be able to be invited into your ship, crew your gun turret. Be your wingman in a space battle. Sit next to your character in a bar and plan our next venture. Play a multiplayer game. I want proper guild tools from the very start. They really are an absolute prerequisite for a multiplayer game, not a promised add on down the line.

The review seems to suggest it's a great single player, go where you want, do what you want game but with a few bugs. But as a multiplayer game it sounds like a repetitive grind, with unimaginative missions and a glorified collect all the shiny ships game. That sounds pretty unapealing.

Then again PC Gamer have a slightly different take but again the criticism is it's shallow and feature poor. Maybe it was too early to release it and Braben just wanted the money??
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smilodon

Like rubber cement there is actually something rather compelling about that  description of Elite. As a single player game it sounds more interesting. I'm conflicted again...... :rolleyes:
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Liberator

Quote from: Elite Newsletter #58Beta backers will be the  first to experience Elite: Dangerous 1.1 in the first week of  February and with their help we’re hoping to roll out the update to  everyone one week later. We’ll be talking next week about how 1.1 will  introduce a new way to collaborate with other players in the galaxy in  preparation for 1.2’s major Wings update in early March.

So we'll know more about multiplayer in the coming month from our Beta players.

Just to clear one thing up, there are no multiplayer missions in the live game at the moment, only shared combat zones. You can of course kill or be killed by another player in open play though.

Tutonic

Quote from: ArithonUK;393842Every aspect of the game was portrayed in a negative context. I guess Frontier didn't give RPS whatever it was they asked for.

What an incredibly stupid thing to say.
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OldBloke

Smilo - I'm treating the game's current state as an opportunity to gain experience and knowledge as a lone player until all the shiny team-based add-ons appear. If they don't deliver on these I will be off. Simple.

I am having fun but on my own terms. I'm not doing the hard grind to rack-up the dosh. I'm happy to own a single ship while I learn how to fly, navigate, trade, mine, explore, fight and run away.
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