nVidia 3080 opinions & discussion

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Sneakytiger

#30
September 27, 2020, 09:32:49 AM
always best to wait till the dusts settled, we havent seen what amd have got up there sleeves yet.
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Whitey

#31
September 28, 2020, 10:38:47 PM
I've had to reduce the core clock on my 3090 by 200MHz to keep it stable.  Seems like a common problem of game crashes when they boost above 2GHz.

sulky_uk

#32
September 29, 2020, 06:59:49 PM
3080 in a mini itx case....its a go!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2s-q34FX7c


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TeaLeaf

#33
September 30, 2020, 08:27:31 AM
I have to say the whole thing has made me just sit back and wait.   I was waiting for water cooling blocks to become available, but whereas I was a shoe-in for an nVidia purchase I'm now waiting for the AMD release and will just take my time making my purchase decision.   I simply don't think it is right to buy a card and then have it crash unless you underclock it.   This launch is a real embarrassment for nVida imho.
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Chaosphere

#34
September 30, 2020, 12:46:44 PM
All our Gods have abandoned us.

Whitey

#35
October 01, 2020, 10:55:29 PM
The latest Geforce drivers (456.55) resolved the issues I had and I'm back running at standard clock with no issues for two days. :D

MSI confirmed the fix in the support case I logged.

TeaLeaf

#36
October 03, 2020, 08:00:41 AM
I'll be honest and say I'd still be more than a little miffed if I'd bought a card already and had the problem fixed through a new driver slowing my card down.    Now I hear what you are saying, standard clock is working again, but my understanding is that the standard clock wasn't the problem, it was the boost clock which is what the driver has reduced, thus improving stability?   I really am happy that yours is working, but I'd feel a little cheated if it were me.
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Mikep1212

#37
October 03, 2020, 10:14:59 AM
Update: An Nvidia representative reached out to say the company hasn’t “done anything to lock the GPU to sub-2 GHz operation with the new driver.”

To put this in proper context, these maximum GPU Boost clock speeds remain well above the rated boost speeds for these cards. The “fix” results in such a minor speed difference that you won’t practically notice it in the game itself.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3583894/nvidia-fix-rtx-3080-crashes-new-drivers-clock-speed.html

Whitey

#38
October 03, 2020, 11:03:29 AM
Quote from: TeaLeaf;443237I'll be honest and say I'd still be more than a little miffed if I'd bought a card already and had the problem fixed through a new driver slowing my card down.    Now I hear what you are saying, standard clock is working again, but my understanding is that the standard clock wasn't the problem, it was the boost clock which is what the driver has reduced, thus improving stability?   I really am happy that yours is working, but I'd feel a little cheated if it were me.

When I say it's back to standard, I mean the base and boost speeds.  I don't know what they have done but the boost is showing up to 2GHz which is what should be expected in OC card.  Before the driver update, the game would crash when it got near 2GHz.
It could be that it is stopping the boost lasting longer than it should (higher temps for too long maybe).  Anyway, I'm more than happy with my purchase :D

Replied before reading the MikeP linked article...

TeaLeaf

#39
October 03, 2020, 11:09:52 AM
I don't buy that they have not changed something in the boost speed.   A lot of articles are referencing reductions in boost speed with the new driver with supporting bench testing.  This one even shows the driver change adjusted boost speeds from 2025MHz to between 1980MHz and 1995MHz, which is in line with most of the -50MHz reports.

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/nvidia-rtx-3080-crashes-are-reportedly-fixed-as-new-gpu-driver-lowers-boost-speeds

They also shot themselves in the foot by only issuing the reference design to AIB partners on (?)3rd September (I may have got the precise date wrong, but it was beginning of September).   Issuing FE to reviewers before giving the reference design to AIB partners is somewhat daft because to my ignorant mind I would assume it takes slightly long to design a custom pcb than it does to do a youtube review and AIB partners ended up with only three weeks to design, manufacture sell their boards, so tight tolerances or sloppy parameters are more likely to bite them in the rear.  

Whether it is electrical interference or over-enthusiastically marketed boost speeds, I think the overall feeling is of disappointment.   They chose the release date and then pooched it with a board that doesn't do what they said it would do - and saying 'we only guarantee the core speed' doesn't cut it when you market the heck out of the boost.   Does it mean I am not impressed with the performance of the board, no.   I'd still be mightily impressed with it in my system, but my confidence in nVidia is reduced somewhat.  I expect driver updates post-launch to improve and refine performance, not stop the card crashing to desktop.  Realease the hardware when it is ready, releasing it to AIB partners early enough helps you find those annoying glitches pre-launch and then you don't get the public disappointment and bad press.

I am still likely to end up buying an nVidia card, but the issues have just made me wait to see what AMD do and for stability to appear.  (I think I'm more sensitive to the stability issue as water-cooled cards would boost more, so are likely to crash more)

Posted before Whitey's reply!  Glad yours is stable now Whitey :thumbsup:
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Chaosphere

#40
October 08, 2020, 06:31:57 AM
[video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9r0DNNpyTA&[/video]

Crossing MSI off of the list.
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TeaLeaf

#41
October 08, 2020, 01:30:40 PM
Yeah saw that too.   Not good.
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TeaLeaf

#42
October 08, 2020, 01:35:38 PM
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Chaosphere

#44
October 10, 2020, 08:29:14 PM
I understand why they ran that article.. but I'm waiting for actual reviews and comparisons from third parties rather than trusting what AMD put on their slides! I dont think it can really be relied upon to make actual conclusions, personally.

That said, I really hope navi can compete with a 3080. Itd be fantastic  for AMD to have viable options in both the CPU and GPU space.
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