calamity james is back

[Moment]

And I believe Cudicini now qualifies as English

i didnt no this, tbh i would play him he is 1 of the best shot stoppers in europe maybe doesnt always hold the ball but stop near enough everything from going in. i couldnt believe it when i herd chealse had got a new keeper  :blink:

and no you cant blame robinson i no the position he was in a team not doing well n having so many shots on you....he had no chance but u cant blame the team for everything its down to a keeper to make sure the team plays as a team and if players dont listen they should be in the squad...

[Benny]

Originally posted by Moment@Sep 7 2004, 04:18 PM

 its down to a keeper to make sure the team plays as a team and if players dont listen they should be in the squad...

 

It's not IMO.

The captain, the coach, the manager all come into play before the keeper. The keeper is in chargeof defensive line ups for defending, but not much else.

Cudicini was a fantastic keeper, but it just wouldn't feel right would it?

[Gh0st Face Killah]

Why not we have a foreign coach. And lets face it it happens in athletics all the time sometimes with only a couple of weeks notice before big meetings. Last week I was american and not racing this week I'm british and racing........ <_<

[ChimpBoy]

I don't read the Observer Benny - it's just my encyclopaedic knowledge of the beautiful game

GK are fickle things - stick an average keeper behind a great defence and you get a great goalkeeper.  Stick a great goalkeeper behind a shocking defence and you soon find out that one man doesn't make too much difference.

GK have to accept a responsibility for results, but that shoudn't be any more or less than other players (and certainly not more than coaches), as Benny said.

The problem with James is that he's a great athlete and every now and again makes great shot-stopping saves, therefore he often gets lauded.  This often saves his skin when it comes to the simple stuff that he can't do.  Like catching  <_<

How about Nige Martyn to add to that list - almost single-handedly kept Everton up last year, but regularly overlooked.

Great players are always getting relegated - just means they're in a poor squad, not that they're a bad player.  Blackburn got relegated the year after winning the championship - does that mean all their players turned rubbish over night?  Unlikely.  In fact I'd go so far as to say a GK in a struggling team would not necessarily be a bad thing - at least they're getting plenty of practice  Steve Bull was a great player in the old Div 1 who regularly scored for England during his brief appearances - no reason we couldn't have a GK do the same.  Anything but Calamity.

But I agree with Benny - naturalising a player like Cudicini should be a last resort (like grabbing a Giggs or Duff to sort out the left wing).  We've named 5 or 6 folks who are more able than James, so resorting to Carlo shouldn't be necessary.  Plus he isn't even in the Chelsea side at the moment since Cech came in.

[Moment]

very good point there about the keeper being more active in a less skilled side, i just feel that a gk at a team who keeps getting beaten will loose is confidence watching the ball fly in the back of the net week in wee out does that to a keeper and another thing about religation, James was taken from West Ham to play for Man city last season and after that they were nearly religated but the team was playing poor was just pointing it out.

Also a keeper thats in a loosing side is always in the spot light so you are going to see him do amzing saves but also he will let a lot in aint an easy job being the last line

u said James catn catch which is the main problem we have weak a weak wing so we get lots of crosses coming in on us.

It wouldnt feel right benny no but if we really wanted to win  :whistle:

[Vincentvega]

Originally posted by Benny@Sep 6 2004, 06:14 PM
Isn't Dudek first choice scouse keeper anyway? I've always defended James, but I'm beginning to think that you can only have so many chances.

I still don't get the relegation point, it makes no sense.

yeah he is thats why we loose a lot but kirkland will be no 1 when hes fit

[MAD_ness]

GREAT NEWS





James is dropped !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Robinsons in .......the Swede has listened !!!!!!!!!!!!