Problem - Solution?

Dr Sadako · December 11, 2004, 09:59:02 AM

We are up and running with our servers but we are struggling to get a game going on our servers. It is almost like we still have the lag problems. Our community members are on other servers and there is only a core of regulars left. I know TL sent out a "we are back in business" message but I haven't seen any result of that tbh. Still the same lads joining.

What can we do about it? Well, I think should do the following. Turn homer into a public CZ server. I see no reason why we should lose people to other servers when we have a set of 5 servers and only one of those being used at a time. I see lots of our charlies going to BoDs public servers. When I know we can give them the same deal here it doesn't add up to have 4 unused servers. I know public isn't the TCS way. But our members obviously don't want to play TCS all the time. So why letting them go away from our servers? I'd rather have e.g Doris/Ice/DuVeL fraghunting on a public server that is ours than on BoDs.

Regarding Baldric being public. We NEED to add public to the server name if we want anyone to join. We played for 3 hours on baldric the other night and one (1) non community member joined ... that is crap tbh.

We should post the IPs on BoD, 12K and CoFR forums so they now that we have public servers.

My five,

Anonymous · December 11, 2004, 10:07:11 AM

I've been thinking along the same lines. The idea that I arrived at is that we (the admins) have to use our servers (at least for the next while) so that people see them as being in use. If we make a concerted effort then it should encourage others to join. If we have a good night on the servers then lets talk it up in the forums so everybody thinks "damn I missed that".

I appreciate that it is going to be tricky with xmas coming up etc but I know that we can turn this round

Squonk · December 11, 2004, 12:32:37 PM

I agree with mats why have our members playing on other pub servers? when we can offer the same.
I have been hanging around on our servers but games are not happening...if i want to play with other dmw's i have to go look on bod/12k etc and i always find them there.
so it sounds a good idea to me and if we show our style of play on Our public server we may get new peeps join the TCS way

JonnyAppleSeed · December 11, 2004, 12:59:56 PM

Im up for anything that gets more people on our servers :huh:

TeaLeaf · December 11, 2004, 05:00:07 PM

Oldbloke and I have discussed this issue and are in agreement with some of the points raised. There are a number of side issues involved, so please hold fire for a day or two to allow us to prepare public posts etc that should summarise all and sundry.

TL.

TeaLeaf · December 12, 2004, 08:34:00 AM

We know that one of the biggest benefits of TCS is the passworded servers. Likewise it is also one of its problems as it makes getting critical mass for a game more difficult. It is also clear that more and more people are playing CZ when trying to get onto a game. So, for a trial period:

Homer will be made a Public CZ server
We are reviewing an AMX mod that redirects you to the other CZ server if Homer is full (like BoD's mod)

But - and there is always a but - if this is going to work then we have to make sure that:

we always go to our server first (not BoD's or 12K's or CoFR's etc)
we continue to promote play and TCZ not public frag whore stylee
we transfer to a private server (TCZ or TCS) when we have sufficient numbers (we have collective responsibility here)
we continue to promote the benefits of registering with us and getting the password via the forums to grow our membership

This will require a lot of control on our part and dedication to the cause. It will be all too easy to remain on the public rather than move onto the private server, but if people enjoy the game with us then they will register and follow us to the private server. We think that CZ is ok to trial as a public instead of CS as the CZ community appears to be sufficiently developed (as evidenced by the success of other servers like BoD etc). A post has also been placed on the Hi-Velocity forums to promote our servers - they're small forums, but we may see some feedback. Please welcome any visitors!

Let's see how this develops. A slightly edited version of the above will be posted later once the changes have been made. If you have any comments re the wording or content then please feedback asap before I make an ass of myself again

Thanks for the impetus Sadako, the matter has been 'under review' but we have been slightly busy elsewhere and the matter had been put on the backburner.

TL.

Dr Sadako · December 12, 2004, 09:35:12 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Dec 12 2004, 10:34 AM
We know that one of the biggest benefits of TCS is the passworded servers. Likewise it is also one of its problems as it makes getting critical mass for a game more difficult. It is also clear that more and more people are playing CZ when trying to get onto a game. So, for a trial period:
Homer will be made a Public CZ server

We are reviewing an AMX mod that redirects you to the other CZ server if Homer is full (like BoD's mod)

But - and there is always a but - if this is going to work then we have to make sure that:
we always go to our server first (not BoD's or 12K's or CoFR's etc)

we continue to promote play and TCZ not public frag whore stylee

we transfer to a private server (TCZ or TCS) when we have sufficient numbers (we have collective responsibility here)

we continue to promote the benefits of registering with us and getting the password via the forums to grow our membership

This will require a lot of control on our part and dedication to the cause. It will be all too easy to remain on the public rather than move onto the private server, but if people enjoy the game with us then they will register and follow us to the private server. We think that CZ is ok to trial as a public instead of CS as the CZ community appears to be sufficiently developed (as evidenced by the success of other servers like BoD etc). A post has also been placed on the Hi-Velocity forums to promote our servers - they're small forums, but we may see some feedback. Please welcome any visitors!

Let's see how this develops. A slightly edited version of the above will be posted later once the changes have been made. If you have any comments re the wording or content then please feedback asap before I make an ass of myself again

Thanks for the impetus Sadako, the matter has been 'under review' but we have been slightly busy elsewhere and the matter had been put on the backburner.

TL.
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Sounds very good. I think it will be easier to reach critical mass for the PW protected servers when we see that there are people on the public server. Hopefully we manage to start games earlier in the evening than before. I think that if the BoD server is active at 18.00 ours could be as well.

I hope we can attract our members to see our "frag"-server as the best alternative in comparison to BoD, 12K or CoFR. Also it is easier to get hold of an admin for our servers than it is on BoD, 12K and CoFR, which in my eyes would make it way more attractive.

I suppose you write a great cut and paste text for us to spam with?

Anonymous · December 12, 2004, 09:33:40 PM

Now this is more like it:

Although I'm now grumpy 'coz I can't join

TeaLeaf · December 12, 2004, 11:04:46 PM

We only got that way because we started on Homer (although with all dMw peeps) and then moved to MeatHook.

TL.

Anonymous · December 13, 2004, 12:08:26 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Dec 12 2004, 11:04 PM
We only got that way because we started on Homer (although with all dMw peeps) and then moved to MeatHook.

TL.
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I was pleased to see the plan worked. I noticed 2 people on MH and "hopefully" tried to use HLSW to let people know. Really pleased to see that the crowd from Homer all moved across pretty smartish