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Okay.

http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9030529

That is quite accurate.  These situations are very rare, but the media goes so crazy over them trying to out-do the other media outlets and get better ratings you'd never know it.  

Taking guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens won't stop things like this.  I'm not sure why, with this kids history, he was even able to PURCHASE a gun.  Well.  I know why,  but I'm shocked that he was able to.

Ehm.. concealed? So if I carry my M16 out in the open I don't?

That depends on the state and local laws.  In some states it would be illegal to even own, in others it would only be illegal to transport without a permit, yet in others it's completely legal to carry (under certain circumstances).

You can't just walk into a shopping mall with an M16 though.  You would get in trouble for that.

There has to be a compromise between a total gun ban (like the UK) and the Wild West throwback that is (some states of) the US.

You need to pass a proficiency test to obtain a licence to a) drive a car (lethal weapon) or b) ride a motorcycle (instrument of Satan), c) fly a plane (9/11 anyone?) and d) run a mobile burger van(a & b), so why not test people's proficiency and psychological aptitude before allowing them to own a firearm?

I doubt there's anyone in the UK who couldn't procure a (illegal) handgun within a couple of weeks if they really wanted to...

I would support this.  You are required in most US states to pass such an exam in order to carry a concealed weapon, but not all states.  The issue with this is once again one of legality vs. illegality,  is someone intent on committing murder going to care about what permits they have and the legality of the weapon they carry?

In this case,  it would have at least identified the kid as having some psychological issues, or so one would hope, and may have saved lives.  But considering what I have read about the kid,  it may have only delayed the inevitable.

Hi Apo, long time....

I'll work up to heading over later, I'm only on page 3 of your thread over there. Although the gun thing has been done to death in that forum in the days of Turtle, Hollywood and Cing.

Off topic. Hope all is well over there? And there are 2 meanings to the word dirty...I meant the Christina version

Yeah,  we've seen the whole gun control thing time and time again.  This new incarnation is a bit of a mess considering all the "academic" controls applied to the discussion,  but it's no less frustrating than ever!

All is well on our side of the pond.  I keep meaning to get over here more often to see what you good folks are up to,  but something always ends up distracting me!  

In days gone by, I would have happily argued in our dirty step sisters forum....here

http://www.tacticalgamer.com/sandbox/89439-more-guns-less-safe-2.html

but I'm not sure I can be bothered this time. For what it's worth I agree with you. I may come back later...

Dirty step sister?!?  :byebye:

This incident is surely a terrible tragedy.  Personally,  I own several firearms and keep them secured at all times.  I think on the whole America has a problem with violent crime,  I'm not sure the problem is with firearms themselves though.  

I do think our gun laws need some revision,  but the problem is the two camps seem to refuse a compromise which makes things difficult with our political structure.  In some areas of the country the ability to carry a firearm is a necessity of life (such as in the high desert in Oregon where my brother lives).

[Sod the games Apo, when's the invite round for a BBQ party?Hmmm, free flight on Virgin with me miles too :eyebrow:]

Originally posted by BigFatCat@Jun 2 2005, 04:10 PM
Sod the games Apo, when's the invite round for a BBQ party?
Hmmm, free flight on Virgin with me miles too :eyebrow:

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Now that is something I would love to do again.  We actually got Sven to fly over for the last Tactical Gamer Summer Bash.  I don't know if I'll be able to pull one off this summer,  but we can always keep our fingers crossed!

Sven having too much to drink:

[:withstupid: How far are we behind him? Are we talking meters or kilometers?That rumbling you've heard was probably BB's stomach as he had to go deliver an urgent message in the toilet.For the rest: Bring it on! :devil: :dmw: :taz:Edit: BTW, what are we talking about here? CS 1.6, CZ or CS: S?]

Originally posted by DuVeL@Jun 2 2005, 09:36 AM
:withstupid: How far are we behind him? Are we talking meters or kilometers?

That rumbling you've heard was probably BB's stomach as he had to go deliver an urgent message in the toilet.

For the rest: Bring it on!

 :devil: :dmw: :taz:

Edit: BTW, what are we talking about here? CS 1.6, CZ or CS: S?

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Most of us are playing CS:Source..   You're not still back in the original CS land,  are you??   Sad..

But then again,  most of you are English and don't have much in the way of gaming skills anyway,  so I can see why you wouldn't be able to cost-justify upgrading to Source..   :narnar:  :narnar:

Did anyone ever tell you guys that you're absolutely horrible at CS?   I could probably beat you all blindfolded and I don't even PLAY CS any more..  :-)

LOL..

In any case,  I just wanted to pop in and say hello to all of you that I haven't seen in ages.  I've heard some rumbling about a dMw / TG scrim so I figured I would get in here and start the smack talk early!!