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Started by Umbra, August 30, 2006, 12:49:40 PM

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Bastet

at the rate melee was dieing i dont see why casters shouldnt have a decent NR as buffer to the healers, who have next to non.
 
Also, dps casters might want to just watch agro the first bit, so that they are fairly low on the shitlist come 30% cause then you need to bring it down asap.
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Deadlyspirit

Agree bastet. I had 229 NR yesterday at huhuran. And I see that as ok for a dps caster. If I am not right say so and I will get more NR and nerf more stats / dps.
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TeaLeaf

I think you're right Deadly, 314 NR is overkill for a caster, but my approach has always been overkill for safety, then gradually reduce the NR until you find the comfortable level for the raid group.  I did the same with FR in MC for Ragnaros and I will probably end up doing the same for Frost in due course at Naxx.  I'd rather have the option to reduce my NR than be dead and wonder 'if'.

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Sinap

Since it only hits the closest 15 people, wouldnt it work to just deck those in full NR, keep ranged dps/healers in normal gear, and make sure they dont die :P By gimping other stats, healing may not be as good, so people die easier, or by gimping dps stats for ranged dps, the dps wont be enough to down her quickly enough after the 30% mark :P
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Nefrion

Id say with that NR put TL infront!! :biggrin:
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TeaLeaf

Quote from: Sinap;148347Since it only hits the closest 15 people, wouldnt it work to just deck those in full NR, keep ranged dps/healers in normal gear, and make sure they dont die :P By gimping other stats, healing may not be as good, so people die easier, or by gimping dps stats for ranged dps, the dps wont be enough to down her quickly enough after the 30% mark :P
Yes that's the theory.  But you need to remember these additional points:

  • We are already trying to max out the NR for the closest 15 people.
  • We have to assume that some people die anyway, so we need to max out more than 15 people.
  • Prior to 30% level, Noxious Poison is still thrown out to hit any of the raid, it's a 3k DOT and silences - this will hit some healers.
  • She goes down quickly enough anyway even when we're fully nerfed in NR gear.
  • Damage casters have already shown they can pull aggro very easily in this fight, thus changing the 15 closest people and wiping the raid.
  • Hunters need to be close to Huhu for their Aspect of the Wild to be in range for tanks and rogues.
  • Healers need to be close enough to heal.
  • A slight movement of Huhu and some of those next closest people will now be  in 'the closest 15'
  • We need to be able to bring her down in a controlled fashion not nuke her out of the sky.
All this leads ot saying yes focus NR on the top 15, but the rest of the raid should have NR too.  I believe it is Righteous who have an application criteria of 200 NR for all new members?  I'm reasonably certain that the 200 NR limit is there for a reason!

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Sinap

Nuke from the sky ftw xD But yeah... suppose, but a decent balance is needed for the people who will actually be doing the dps/healing. Closest lot = meat shields, grats rogues on being promoted to meat shield!
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StrontiumDog

On the subject, I am willing to go master demo for the extra resistances with the felhunter if it is desired, would take me over 300 ish...

Umbra

Hmph, back on track:

This post wasn't meant to be a full discussion of NR and such, just a helpful pointer on how to get the really easy stuff for those with little time or gold, just to help out. go to the 'huhuran tactics : updated' thread to get pedantic :P
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