BWL & Progress

[shadowscream]

May go down, *** is this, can you see when you internet connection will go down?
 
No, this just a bad excuse for not will pay the bill for learning.
 
I can't really take you thread serious since you leave so early and only excuse is "I may lose my connection". When you show some interest in the raid and not leaving because it cost you money, I will take you serious.

yeah I can see because I got a letter earæier  that day about the matter, so **** off greatdanes, you make me sick, you think everyone is lier? Almost every BWL run I was there and wiped after wipe you all, after all that you think I'm running away from the REPAIR BILL? shame on you.
 
Grats about downing Vael but you do know I'm right, we  downed razorgore yes, 2wice and it was how long ago? 5-6 week? that really makes one think you know.
rgiht now I'm really ****ed and just gonna log, turn the comp down and chil a bit. really disappointed you think like that guys.

[Greatdanes]

The Marshals have several times announce if you have to leave early one night please tell this in advance so we can calculate whit this.
You didn’t tell us anything last night before you say “I have to go, bye” and logoff, along whit our complaint over no progress it must be the only thing wrong here, you repair bill, that’s why I can’t take you serious(not calling you a lier, this is you own words).

[Bastet]

did u menchen wee had about 30 sec left???

30 sec left is a lot, i think on our first RG1 kill we had something like 15 sec past his buff :doh:

[shadowscream]

I did annouce before my last attempts at Razor, omfg there is something called raid chat I suggest you marshals take a look at it some times.
and that is your assumption that I'm running away because of the repair bill, I was already at 44% last night so what's the difference 1-2G i'm not that poor. You are completely closing your eyes at the fact that I have been there in almost every BWL raid and yes there was always a repair bill to pay, did I " I " ever complaint about it, I heard you guys always at TS talking " OMG 9G OMG 12G" never ever complained about repair bill, try to read my last post again and if you don't understand, look it up in a dictionary.
 
You are accusing of Lier, running away of repair bill, but try look again in the first post, this is a fact that we are stuck in the first 2 bosses in BWL belive it or not, it's because you deny to accept the fact that each time you bring new players in BWL with us it will slow us down a bit and improve the chance wipe by some %s. now you keep doing this and merry christmass, we can still keep doing Razor and vael until 2007.
 
Now this is a good occation to ask RG1 members,
1) how long did it take you to come to down the third boss in BWL?
2) did you have new members who recently joined guild in every BWL run?

[Bunfur]

not gonna comment on this post.
 
But have to say it felt so good to get Vael down finally, and with 37 ppl so gj guys....not perfect still need alot of work on Razor, but we are getting there so Monday will be a whole new fight waiting for us, so be prepared.

[TeaLeaf]

I did annouce before my last attempts at Razor, omfg there is something called raid chat I suggest you marshals take a look at it some times.

Ignoring the personal insults flying around here (which I think you should all stop), I would like to point out to all raid members that it is a standing order that you do not announce any intentions to 'leave', 'go afk', 'bio' etc unless you whisper an officer AND get a response.  

Typing it in raid chat is not acceptable as there are simply too many other things going on for an officer to guarantee to notice everything (including all the banal comments) in raid chat.  Whisper an officer - if you get no response then we have not been advised - so try another officer.  We might be alt-tabbed doing something, we might be reviewing taccies, we might be doing DKP, we might be discussing changes on officer TS channel - so WAIT for a response from us.  If you get no response then we officially do NOT know.

So please do not say 'I put it in raid chat why did you miss it' because the answer will almost certainly be 'because I was doing the behind the scenes work necessary to run a 40 person raid for your enjoyment'.

TL.

[Bob]

Ignoring the personal insults flying around here (which I think you should all stop), I would like to point out to all raid members that it is a standing order that you do not announce any intentions to 'leave', 'go afk', 'bio' or anything else unless you whisper and officer AND get a response.

Still, that is no excuse for a Marshall (or anyone else for that matter), to go out in the public and accuse other members for such things that Greatdanes did in his first post (and in such an inpolite language as well).
All Shadowscream did was to apologize for having to go offline, and also comment (in a sivil way) on the raid progress, and I don't think he ever thought this could escalate into this kind of flaming (and I too tbh don't see why this should end up here).
I believe some excuses are in place, and perhaps also a lock of the thread?  Fix arguments like this in private, don't take it out in the public forum - it doesn't belong here.

[TeaLeaf]

Which is why I asked for all personal comments to cease.  I'm not excusing, I specifically didn't say anything on it so please don't try to blow it up into a weekend inflatable doll.  Neither you nor I have sufficient info to make a judgement on it, so please do not bother posting it to highlight it! If you think someone behaved inappropriately please PM an officer and it will be looked into.

TL.

[Claw]

30 sec left is a lot, i think on our first RG1 kill we had something like 15 sec past his buff :doh:

:crazy::crazy: ugh *slap me* ok lets make a deal if u say 15 sec for RG1 hmm il say 5 sec left :blink::blink::blink:

Deal ??!?

well dno acturly i was still shaking whole day becuse of the leat teamwork

[Yrthal]

hey had a 35g repairbill in total, and sow what with the succes it felt like giving it away to charity :narnar:

Just wanna say ofcourse its gonna slow us down on new members but hey they should also have a chance to learn it :smile: so dont think that much about it mate, cheer up, grab a beer and do it over and over again untill everyone knows what to do.. I still got something to learn, as everyone else does, thats why this game is worth playing, accomplishing new goals as team, thats what its all about :biggrin:

Broodlord here we come :boxing:

[Bastet]

It took us a while canceling quite a few raids to get there, remember we raided BWL 2 times a week back then.... And i cant say how many ppl just joined then, but then the raid core was about twice as big as now, with casual and hardcore raiders in 1 group, id say there was about 5-10 ppl in raids that joined on a less weekly basis. So RG2 isnt doing anything new, been there done that, got over it :smile:
 
If you want a time line:
 
01/08/06 First BWL raid
02/19/06 First Razorgore kill
02/26/06 First Vaelstrasz kill
03/12/06 First Broodlord kill

[Bastet]

ugh *slap me* ok lets make a deal if u say 15 sec for RG1 hmm il say 5 sec left
 
Deal ??!?
 
well dno acturly i was still shaking whole day becuse of the leat teamwork

i said past his buff, we took 3:15 or so where the buff lasts 3:00

[Claw]

i said past his buff, we took 3:15 or so where the buff lasts 3:00

ahhh bastet i want to deal

hehe