Chat with Voretex

[Bastet]

Just had the following conversation with voretex on MSN, not sure what hes on about, but the info is worth sharing.
 

Alex zegt:
Hey

Alex zegt:
whats happening in SoG at the moment ?

Alex zegt:
im getting ALOT of whispers about **** happening and they wanna leave . .

2x ing. Niwa Banli-Zan / -=[dMw]=-Bastet zegt:
RG2 is having a hard time

Alex zegt:
mate i dont wanna sound like im having a go

Alex zegt:
but its RG1 im talking about . .

Alex zegt:
2 main problems

Alex zegt:
TL,
And TL and DMW

Alex zegt:
no one wants to be part of DMW, at all and alot of the veterans feel unhappy beinhg address as DMWs SoG

Alex zegt:
and believe me im not trying to criticise (i have no right seeings as im not in SoG) but for some reason whenever **** happens everyone comes to me and menedil

Alex zegt:
so im basically passing the heads on

Alex zegt:
sort TL the **** out

Alex zegt:
or u will get MASS

Alex zegt:
/gquit

Alex zegt:
and mass /ginvite righteous on ur best players

2x ing. Niwa Banli-Zan / -=[dMw]=-Bastet zegt:
well afaik, no1 has yet stepped forward giving any kind of critism

2x ing. Niwa Banli-Zan / -=[dMw]=-Bastet zegt:
nice to know ppl care enough to say something

2x ing. Niwa Banli-Zan / -=[dMw]=-Bastet zegt:
and run straight for righteous

Alex zegt:
The thing is bastet no one wants to say anything

Alex zegt:
they always come to me and fkin mene for some reason

Alex zegt:
and we havent been in the guild for months lol

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[TeaLeaf]

Hmmm.  Anonymous criticism.  Always good to have.  Here's my sword.  Want me to fall on it?

In the mean time other FMs should ask around and find out what they can.  Something of substance would be good rather than just rumour.  

TL.

[lunares]

First of all thx bast for sharing this.
 
But the way i see this its like vore wants more SOG in RG.
No offence but last time i spoke to vore he was begging to buy bijous....
About ppl not liking TL, whe the f*** didn't they say anything then?
I can try to talk to ppl but i must say this looks more like a rant to tl hoping we loose members over it...
 
Lunares

[TeaLeaf]

Either way, you can imagine how good I feel about it.  Damn I need some beer.

Wonder if this links back to the Menedil/Luthor comments.

TL.

[lunares]

Yeah i can imagine.
 
Lunares

[Vargen]

First of all thx bast for sharing this.
 
But the way i see this its like vore wants more SOG in RG.
No offence but last time i spoke to vore he was begging to buy bijous....
About ppl not liking TL, whe the f*** didn't they say anything then?
I can try to talk to ppl but i must say this looks more like a rant to tl hoping we loose members over it...
 
Lunares

Voretex has allready had a hand in declining a lot of SOG applicants in Righteous. So no. But it is concerning that it seems ppl are unhappy with dMw.

[Bastet]

Well i have looked arround a bit, and i cant find anything or anyone thats really not in agreement with the current system with sog beeing in dmw, that only things that i found out is that some ppl disagree with the level of maturity requested of them now.

[TeaLeaf]

In light of the way I am feeling about this I am noting the fact that I may not be around this evening for the raid.  Not sure if I can cope with being Mr Positive RL right now.  iT may just be post-lunch blues, but I'm not feeling hugely positive about things right now.

TL.

[Vargen]

I'll be drafting something up for later as an announcement. In short asking for feedback on how ppl see the dMw - SOG situation. I know allready some are unhappy with being 'beneath' dMw, but I want to get to the bottom of this.

[KreuZ]

I asked around alot before and after the raid and I couldn't find anyone at all who had these opinions.

[TeaLeaf]

Clawline is in Righteous today, I spoke to him and it did not seem that he had a problem with me, but he did say he spoke to Vargen before going so maybe Vargen can fill us in more?  Clawline did say that he was fed up with some people going behind his back - not sure what that refers to though.

TL.

[Vargen]

Well, basically he just whispered me last night thanking me/us for all the good times and oportunities he has been given in SOG and said he wasleaving to get the oportunity to raid more. He didn't mention anything about being unhappy with anything, just that he was leaving. I think he sensed my sarcasm when I asked "Righteous RG2?", even before he had finished though :norty:

We pretty much gave him the spot when we took Oneangel out of RG. So I guess he should be thanking us Trust Righteous to take two priests from the same guild on the same day.