Living embers

[Sithvid]

Rgt/Rgw embers have been won with rgt helping . I think the RL look at attendance and gear and make a decision that benefits the raid,   upgrade for someone not there? Minor upgrade for a position that doesn't need it tank/heals/melee/ranged go with head not heart

[hermioneg]

Private opinion, other (RGW) lootninja raiders

lol Lego do you think im a lootninja???  suits me use DKP or any other way you feel appropriate.

  but dont call me LOOTNINJA!!!!:angry:

Ps I personally did not need the Tailoring objects, but I collect them for the legendary staff......:norty:
PPs and i think any1 needs only 4 to gear upgrade....cmon its hands or feet only.... i think you take T12 gloves (at least for main)...and you quarrel for 1 object??

 i saw now tailoring boot  http://www.wowhead.com/item=69954  ...wow

[JonnyAppleSeed]

I dont see us using attendance as a baseline or the level of upgrade. Thats what dkp is for you earn your dkp you decide how to spend it. If it gives you better gear it helps the raid. I can confirm they will go as a batch of 4

[Legolei]

Nice to see some discussion, hopefully the officers will have a bit less problems in making the decision.

Just to clarify 1 thing from my 2nd post: I just listed possible grounds of assignment and possible ways.

I only want a fair and transparent way, that is clearly communicated.

PS: No Hermi, not you :devil2:

[vladic]

At sith, mentioning the "with RGT helping" kinda makes it sound like we wouldnt have aquired anything on our own which to be honest the only times RGT input in raids now is for new bosses like ryolith and even then input has become minimum these days so this shouldnt play a contributing factor.

Second as far as i know RGW have gotten a living ember every Shannox and beth kill which must add up to 8 embers ish now (my math may be off here but it sounds about right) and im all for using DKP to bid for the embers but what people are really asking is how are we going to divide them? is it going to be auctioned between both Raid Groups? (we should set a minimum attendance or you could have someone come back after 6 months of no raiding with 100DKP and just outbid everyone like you did with the BOE's for Deminion in the guild bank, not enoguh attendance he didnt get them).

I like lego's idea of saying what they are upgrading and what the enhancment is however this would only work if both Raid groups are seperated or if we used this RGW would pretty much get priority on them all as RGT is better geared then all of us anyway.

so personally i say: (and bearing in mind i know its a guild and we share but something like this isnt practical with us all on different equipment and raid tiers)

1: RGW gets there embers after they gather 4 and RGT get theres after they gather 4 that way no group can get in a huff or anything along those lines

2: DKP bid as per usual for the set of 4 but there must be an attendance minimum to allow bidding for example we have a shaman in RGW who attended twice tops, he wouldnt be aloud.

3: Looking at gear may be beneficial if we notice soemone falling really behind with there gear (for example still have blue gloves or feet for what ever reason) as the only pieces that can be replaced are feet and gloves anyway, other then that stick to rule 2.

Thats best way i can see it making sence and being pretty equal, sure RGW will need more time to gather 4 but least then it simplifies it. as for the 12 in there now id say give 4 to RGW 4 to RGT and then have raid leaders /roll or something for the remaining four

[Legolei]

Ps I personally did not need the Tailoring objects, but I collect them for the legendary staff......:norty:

You collect Eternal Ember for the staff, and we are happy to give them to you

[Azunai]

How about combining 1a, 2 and 3?

Do a !bid everytime a raidgroup reaches 4 embers?

It was a step by step thing.. So yea, 1 2 3 ;-)

[Sithvid]

@ Vlad @ Sith.. I didn't mean to imply that RGW would not get them under their on volition, just to highlight it may not be as clean cut split them down the middle.

cheers

[hermioneg]

You collect Eternal Ember for the staff, and we are happy to give them to you

oooh its true.....better :doh:

[Switchback]

We have 2 raid grps....set the embers apart imo....saves alot of bitching and such....

So RGT get 16 in a week great new upgrades for RGT!.....Rgw get 6 still some1 gets an upgrade

People are going to QQ all day about this so what ever is in guild bank i say goes to RGT i want them (and the guild) to progress in ranks and the gear will help do this... From a set date any that drop go to seperate slots in the bank its not hard to watch the log and from there let it be a dkp auction....i know it s more effort on the officers and sorry chaps or the only other way is when they drop...each individual dkp rolls in the raid...

[TeaLeaf]

On behalf of Council, can I close this thread.

Council will post up what will happen with the Living Embers shortly, then you'll know what will actually happen rather than continue with the guessing!  As was originally stated, we wanted to see the drop rate before deciding, so give it a few days and Council will post up what the official policy will be for both raid groups.

[Legolei]

On behalf of Council, can I close this thread.

Council will post up what will happen with the Living Embers shortly, then you'll know what will actually happen rather than continue with the guessing!  As was originally stated, we wanted to see the drop rate before deciding, so give it a few days and Council will post up what the official policy will be for both raid groups.

Please close the thread once the Council's decision has been published.
Jas promised a decision around the time of sunday's raid.

[Slush]

Wooow... Posting in a closed thread! Nanananana :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo: