Ragnaros - DEFEATED 20/09/2011

[hermioneg]

I know drea ...  you want to try some HC tonight??     :g:

[Grimnar]

I know drea ...  you want to try some HC tonight??     :g:

Yes that is why he bumped some threads for RGW.  Take a look at Shannox HC and Allyz HC.  

[pälsboll]

Wait.. what? Tier token dropped from raggy? Hahaha, ofcourse it did :roflmao:

And im still in my 3/5 T12 :-)

same here.. so what´s a token?

and hope that it help us that ya in rgt showed Drea how to do it

[Arcticfire]

They dont do it different pals, they just dont make errors in P1-2, meaning they can/could practise alot on P3. 4 people died but they still managed to kill him.
Our problem lies in the fact that we arent getting to p3 enough, meaning we cant practise it.

[TeaLeaf]

and hope that it help us that ya in rgt showed Drea how to do it

Not exaclty!  We had a real sloppy try (we were all real disappointed at not having HC Ragnaros available), so lost 2 people in P2-3 transition and another couple in P3, we still managed to kill the boss though.  But I think Drea already knew how to kill Ragnaros - and he did not die last night and was the same HPSe as RGT's top healer for the fight.  

Job well done Drea :thumbsup:

[hubbah]

was a pretty silly try some stupid hunter hit his deterence instead of arcane shot when he was in the corner and by doing that killing him self and almost killing grim..

[Grimnar]

was a pretty silly try some stupid hunter hit his deterence instead of arcane shot when he was in the corner and by doing that killing him self and almost killing grim..

Yeah i was already wondering about what you where doing....  If it wasn't you with the meteors in my corner it was TL :narnar: but i think Torgen was the one that really had enough and just died twice during that try:sideways:

[TeaLeaf]

They dont do it different pals, they just dont make errors in P1-2

Tbh, that sums up the way RGT tries to raid.  I say try as we'll all make mistakes sometimes, but the difference is in what the raid members then do about it.  If you repeat the same errors time and time again nobody progresses and the repetition of mistakes is what we try to minimise.  

In RGT, after each pull we try to identify who died, what went wrong, how it can be avoided next time so that we don't waste each other's time and so that we all progress.  I'm pretty sure that some people feel singled out sometimes, but it is for the good of the raid group in the long run and we try to do it in a nice way, but we still have to call out poor performers and errors, there's no other way around it.

In essence we try to help people focus on where they are going wrong and identify what they need to do to fix it.   You can take that approach one of two ways: either in a constructive way (which RGT do in the main), or as a negative comment that tries to put someone down. How the raid members take the feedback from the RL will affect your progress as a raid.  If you ignore the feedback and e.g. are still being hit by Lava Waves after 6-8 weeks in P1 of Ragnaros...........well there's a boss mod warning for it, you can set a warning klaxon for it, you can get your screen to flash for it, you get a verbal warning on TS for it, it's got a 5 second pre-animation of where it is spawning, and it travels slowly across the room - you want a registered letter and an email too?   Seriously basic stuff.  If someone can't handle that kind of simple mechanic perhaps they are not suited to raiding and should volunteer to sit out of the encounter?  It's that sort of inept performance that destroys raids and the group's morale.  Everyone needs to take personal responsibility for doing there bit.   If *everyone* in RGW does that, then nobody's efforts will be wasted and Ragnaros will drop very very quickly.

[hermioneg]

If *everyone* in RGW does that, then nobody's efforts will be wasted and Ragnaros will drop very very quickly.

I agree ..... tl
 but I looked at the log of your raid ...
 drea did the same as the RGT healers, but not dpser ... We are down about 13k dps (you have 3 people over 20k)   ,,
so we need a P1 - T1 - P2 - T2 with no errors..:sad:

[Azunai]

Bugger let me die too. Twice.

[Azunai]

I did it for the team hermi, really I did. It was a pain to hang out with these guys

Bugger let me die too. Twice.

:narnar:

[Arcticfire]

cant remember