Problem with GUILDBANK and MONEYBAGZ

[Vargen]

There are a lot of good points made on all sides here, but in the end we are all one guild and we should stick together. It is very easy to think that it is the easy life for officers here, but let me tell you, it's not. At the moment I belive Bastet made a summary "To do list" for us with no less then 12 points that need attention. Not one of them involved anything about the guild bank, sorry.
I know some would like items form guildbank, and I try to hand out what I can when I can if I see it as a investment for the guild and our future. However when it comes to matters where I have more requests then I can accomodate, I tend to put it aside and evaluate the situation. In case of where many want the same stuff, you need to consider; what will benefit the balance of the raid or the progress needed. Who will gain the most from the item, give the most back. Who actually shows up, and are able to show up.
A lot of factors are in there, and I am also sorry I haven't updated what I have given out and not on the public post.

To be honest I have even lost count of how many people are in the guild myself. We are a lot of people with different needs and expectations. It is an impossible task to keep everyone satisfied at any given moment. So I ask you to point your blades and sharp tongues at a common goal and not eachother. Give em hell in Blackrock Mountain and in the desert sands of Ahn'qiraj.

I lead this guild with pride, and with the best damn officers there are.
Where others turn on eachother and go their seperate ways, we have risen and moved on. We play the game well and have more fun then anyone else. Let's keep it that way.

[Neff]

And dont forget that some of the officers have some kind of RL too ya know, like eating and sleeping happens too. Jk

YOu officers do a kickass job running this guild, the day this guild gets boring to play with im quitting wow.

:thumbsup:

[saori]

Originally posted by Marduk@May 17 2006, 02:04 PM
as for the asking stupid questions in guild chat, if you would have alt/tabbed and only typed a part of that question in the thottbot search, you would have gotten a quicker awnser

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Well, Marduk, who the hell are you to say about "stupid questions"?? uh?? and you are claming for respect to each other with this kind of stuff??

As for the "so called officers" frase, my fault, i wasnt thinking on the sense of the frase the way people here had do, so sorry, now i know and i will avoid using it.

If you, Officers, had so much work as you had stated, why dont you just recruit more officers so you can share the work among more members? I had never told that officers work was a piece of cake, i had just argued about bank management.

And all this for a TANGOing felheart belt, damn, you can keep the item and disenchant it if you wish, i dont TANGOing give a damn for it, its just a game, for god sake! but the real problem here is the people that had forgot that "friendship" that made SoG a great guild, people like the ones telling about stupid questions for example. In my opinion SoG isnt as friendly as months ago, things had changed a lot and we are forgetting the "good manners". SoG members dosent have the fault that i cannot play more, but pisses me off that when i have time to play and share some good time (or moments) with my fellow guild members, i get answers like "check thotts, stupid question, and so". It seems that WoW is now reducced only to raiding and nothing else, well, im not sure if i like it this way...

Sao.

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I have to beg the differ here. I feel that the guild spirit is stronger than ever. Yes a lot of the time its focused on raiding, but thats why many of the players are playing at all. If it wasnt for raiding and guild spirit, i personally would've quit WoW long time ago.

I can easily understand your frustrations, but we are only human and the more people we get in the guild, the more we have to stick together to keep the spirit high.

Sometimes stupid remarks are made, god knows i've made mine... Guild spirit is also about forgiving, and even though people sometimes comes with "stupid" remarks, the thing that will keep the guild together is the ability to see beyond the guild chat and look at the player on the other side of the screen. You never know if they are having a bad day, or what their personaly situation is about. I know say that justify's being "rude", but the person that can see through all the text, and discover the person behind the keyboard, is the person that also are contributing to keeping things high in the guild.

[Bob]

I don't have anything to add about the original topic of this thread, but I would like to back up Saori a bit on some of the other points that have been made in some of the posts:

Originally posted by saori+May 18 2006, 08:15 AM-->

QUOTE(saori @ May 18 2006, 08:15 AM)

but the real problem here is the people that had forgot that "friendship" that made SoG a great guild, people like the ones telling about stupid questions for example. In my opinion SoG isnt as friendly as months ago, things had changed a lot and we are forgetting the "good manners".

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I have to agree a bit with Saori on this one.  SOG started as a pure casual guild with the major part being RL friends, and everything was about playing together, having fun, joking around and all that stuff.  I don't say that we don't have any fun anymore, and we definetly joke around (a lot!) - but from time to time I can see signs that there is (and has been for a small time) a small change of attitude.

It's not that I don't like that we more and more turn into a (hard-core?) raiding guild (I guess that's the way it has to go if we're gonna make it as a big strong guild), but that doesn't need to compromise with an allover nice and friendly attitude towards eachother.  What do one have a guild for, if not to ask "stupid" questions in guild chat (and btw: I've learnt that there are no such thing as a stupid question; only stupid answers)?

The last month have been a bit tense with all the absence problems, and in times like these it's more important than ever that we all make an extra effort to help eachother "get through the day".  I don't remember where I read this, but I think it' a nice thing to bear in mind: "Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions"

And just to finish off, I'd like to quote Vargen, cause I think he said it very well earlier:

[TeaLeaf]

Originally posted by Threbrilith+May 18 2006, 08:56 AM-->

QUOTE(Threbrilith @ May 18 2006, 08:56 AM)

but that doesn't need to compromise with an allover nice and friendly attitude towards each other. [/b]

Yes and this applies to the way people write on the forums too.

Originally posted by Vargen@
Where others turn on eachother and go their seperate ways, we have risen and moved on. We play the game well and have more fun then anyone else. Let's keep it that way.

/signed.

Let the thread get some peace and quiet now.  Saori has his answer and clearly needs some quality cool off time.  Officers can add another item to the To Do List.  Members need to get back to enjoying themselves.

[Neff]

Where others turn on eachother and go their seperate ways, we have risen and moved on. We play the game well and have more fun then anyone else. Let's keep it that way.

/signed should be written down

Move along please, there's nothing to see here..........

Oh my god i lol'd ! xD :worship:

[Bob]

Originally posted by Neff+May 18 2006, 02:22 PM-->

QUOTE(Neff @ May 18 2006, 02:22 PM)

[imga=right]http://77.108.135.49/fahtags/ms10.jpg[/imga]* Threbrilith the Nightelf, born and raised by the Silver Oak Guardians *
Proud member of Dead Men Walking

[sitha]

Originally posted by Threbrilith@May 18 2006, 04:19 PM
Yeah, but did you move along??? Oh no... :narnar:

Did you?  :dummy:

[TeaLeaf]

As I said.  Move along please, I think we have exhausted this particular thread.  If there's a decent point to debate then by all means start a new thread, but let's nto just keep bumping this for the sake of it!  So, thread closed.

Thanks.

TL.