The people in BWL

Greatdanes · July 25, 2006, 10:15:26 AM

I ask a question last about why there only was 4 hunters in the raid and was told it's was because we needed 6 warriors to tanking in the fight.

When we did the fight I did see 1 warrior not tanking but used as a rogue instead to take mages down.

Why that, because you told me you needed 6 warriors to tanking?

Why was there 6 paladins in the raid?

The answer I did get from you guys last night I can't use to a ****:eyebrow:

I have this feeling of I was in you way last night and you try to in some way to ignore me because I did ask some question you diden't want......

Mazii · July 25, 2006, 10:23:58 AM

I got told that we needed 6 Warriors to do the fight, and 6 Paladins would be preferable. I think the reason we needed 6 Warriors was because if one died the next could try to pick up the loose mobs.

Greatdanes · July 25, 2006, 10:30:43 AM

I was told to Tac. meeting with TL, one died is = wipe so no need for a extra warrior.

Bastet · July 25, 2006, 10:31:29 AM

If a train dies, you whipe. No warrior can build up enough agro on 15 mobs to stop ppl from dieing. (Yes it is possible, but not at the current BWL experiance level)

6 warriors is preferd in BWL, but not for razorgore, you only need 4, and the 5th is normaly on the bubble (control) with RG1 cause we dont know what to do with him, just ask ragnarh :smile:

Same for paladins, 6 is nice for auras, but you only really need 4, 2 on each platform.

Ofc, you can try 6 trains, but that puts to much strain on the healers, and it greats conflict (Who trains what?)

Overall the best group is 5 of each class.

Sazgul · July 25, 2006, 10:31:35 AM

Noone did ignore you on that. We had many problems last night GD, and im sorry you felt ignored, and im sorry hunters felt neglected.

But it was our first time in BWL, booth RG2, and for us Marshalls was our first time leading. And I must say im a bit dissapointed of severel RG2 defender members, and how they react (both people accepted in bwl and people not with us) - We do the best we can, and try to satisfy everyone... But its a hard job, and I felt a bit this was not appriciated last night... This said back to you issue GD.

I would love to have a plan over how many of each class we would best bring to BWL. Whats needed.
Druids
Palladins
Rogues
Hunters
Mages
Priests
Warriors
Warlocks

How many of each? Please put some numbers on it guys and lets see what is adds up too... As i see it, we MUST bring at least 5 of each class, this would be the most fair.

And GD, it was a mistake we didnt bring more huntes, and I think it was due to the chaotic start we had, so a failure from Marshalls... Me included. We will do better next time.

Please inform hunters that we made a mistake, and things will improve, but let them know we are doing our best! :devil:

Bastet · July 25, 2006, 10:33:40 AM

At request, the group setup used by RG1 is now put in the tactics threads of Vael and Razor, will be updated with other group setups as RG2 moves along.

TeaLeaf · July 25, 2006, 01:50:28 PM

..../sighs TL goes to check it

TL.

Sazgul · July 26, 2006, 08:28:18 AM

I think Marshalls are very soon settled on a solution... LIFO seems to be the way to do it, with maybe the exeception of RG2 BWL first month or two, imo we should reserve the right to make sure every gets their shoot on BWL from the start.

for exeample, next raid palladin join looks like this;
...insert 4 palladins...
[Werful]
[Buford]

The imo we should allow Buford a spot, since Werful was in the last BWL run. At least for the start of RG2 in BWL... Im afraid if someone is always last (yes this will happen) they lose interest, and will feel like they are beeing put second.

[postet same in other post]

Padding · July 26, 2006, 10:05:07 AM

Concerning the classes you need.... its nice to have surplus of certain classes as long as you are training, but in theory and when you pin the fight down, its best to have 5 of each imo

Sazgul · July 26, 2006, 10:12:53 AM

Well as it is now, I think we should go with 5 of each class... It's not the time to explain that we only take 4 hunters and 4 warlocks.

so for starters I say lets invite 5 of each class, and im sure we will be short on certin class'es at some point very soon'ish

TeaLeaf · July 26, 2006, 01:47:22 PM

Quote from: SazgulWell as it is now, I think we should go with 5 of each class... It's not the time to explain that we only take 4 hunters and 4 warlocks.

so for starters I say lets invite 5 of each class, and im sure we will be short on certin class'es at some point very soon'ish

5 of each is the way we started. It's simple, everyone understands the math (8 * 5 = 40).

RG1 only looked at needing 6 tanks at Nefarian, not before.

TL.

DarkAngel · July 26, 2006, 06:10:44 PM

Yeah i think 5 of each class would probally be the easiest and will make it so people wont get annoyed that too many of each class are there.

I hope you guys are on later so we can discuss it on TS if not on Thursday before the run at around 17:30?

Bastet · July 27, 2006, 07:34:41 AM

5:30 what time DA? BST or GT :tongue: sounds a bit early for game time, so ill quess that would be 6:30 for euro mainland

Sazgul · July 27, 2006, 09:21:34 AM

Yeah let speak server time. 18:30 ST?

I wont be done at work untill 18:00 Servertime, and then closing the shop would take another 15-20 min, depending on those stupid last minut customers....:yell:

So I will try to be there asap.