Rg2 Vs Bwl

Zabard · October 10, 2006, 12:31:32 PM

Don't worry, Nightshadel, from what I saw, u did a fine job yesterday. And with the other rogues almost fully NS'ed up, what drops there will in most likelyhood go to u. As you might have noticed, most of us wear other stuff than just NS, bacause items u can get from ZG and AQ are better.

Knabbel · October 10, 2006, 12:33:40 PM

Quote from: noevra;155406RG2 is kinde in a 2 way situation, one the one hand we are to "good" for mc, and we are not yet "good" inuf for bwl

Not agree on you with that. As we did our fastest run throught MC on the 3de of august we even killed Onxyia that evening, since then we never made a faster MC clearance. So it's not that we are to good, remember we still wiped 4 times on MC mobs last thursday. We still don't do MC under three hours. Also we seem to have problems in MC with proper pulling and positions to stand without pulling other mobs... Still a lot to get used to eachother. As noevra stated it's not the new ones, hell we didn't knew it back then. When going up through the instances we must work more together as a team, room for error narrows down. So let's get a solid group and we can gain progression on RG1 again.

In the meantime I attend to all the MC runs to help out getting gear for newones, but plz people stay and work on the team aspect....I'll bet we even get even with RG1 as soon as we are known to eachother.

D.

nightshadel · October 10, 2006, 12:34:33 PM

Thanks Jemeny..

yeah I have noticed some of you prefer to use 2 pieces of zandalar madcap instead of the Tier one and stuf..
But stil it is a childish dream that of maybe having at least nearly all of tier 1..?

Devout · October 10, 2006, 01:38:49 PM

Hi

Bwl are hard and the new efforts in just going for bwl will get us into mastering the first bosses. I think that we are a very short period of time away from that.

Siffredi and the other commanders are telling their orders in a calm and clear voise to the raid group and I really think they har gettin better and better in their job. Its not easy to learn a new boss and lead it in the same time. The best thing we can do is to try to inform our class leader about our class efforts, so we can learn from it. If YOU are doing something wrong and the leader point it out its not an accusation, its in the process of gettin better.

Offcourse its frustrating not to down razor last nite, but we should be able to do him in a easy way with the right tacks with our group.

About a steady raid group. Not to offend anybody but as for my own class Im glad that the leaders have cleard out the ones that havent been raiding for ages and gettin some new in. atm we are only two that have the required raid attendance, and that will short out in the future by this group. The next raidnights I hope and belive that we can be a steady 4-5 priest group without help from Teall (its nice to have you but I belive its a solution out of need):wink:

All in all wer having fun.

DonnieKingo · October 10, 2006, 01:51:37 PM

And even though we didnt manage to get a kill in BWL last night - we still managed to down Onyxia with only 25 man...it was a struggle with a surprise wipe while preparing for the second attempt - but we did it :boxing:

nightshadel · October 10, 2006, 01:56:12 PM

Well as TL said... HEll yeah we are gonna get a nice fine kill on razorgore next time!
:devil:

TeaLeaf · October 10, 2006, 04:16:06 PM

Quote from: Devout;155431The next raidnights I hope and belive that we can be a steady 4-5 priest group without help from Teall (its nice to have you but I belive its a solution out of need):wink:

I agree fully, I should not need to be there to help out. But I still got the biggest mana pool on RG2 :norty:

TL.

Sebas · October 10, 2006, 04:27:28 PM

Quote from: TeaLeaf;155471I agree fully, I should not need to be there to help out. But I still got the biggest mana pool on RG2 :norty:

TL.

Your kidding me? I thought I it was me :sad:

But we almost mastered Phase 1 of the fight, which is the hardest part. The times we did kill him it was more luck than skill and this time the first phase went almost perfectly except when on the last second a tank dies. I have the feeling were close to mastering this fight. :boxing:

And about the stable Raidgroup, I hope this would be possible, but for me its hard to get the required attendance due to work and school but I'm trying my best :biggrin:

TeaLeaf · October 10, 2006, 05:43:45 PM

Quote from: Sebas;155477Your kidding me? I thought I it was me :sad:

I have the feeling were close to mastering this fight. :boxing:

Yep, just pipped you with about 9.3k buffed, I think you're about 9.1k from memory.

Re the mastering of the fight, you're absolutely right. When RG1 was learning this fight it was choatic for the longest time, then all of a sudden we got to the point where we managed phase 1 properly and within a week the fight went from choas and wiping to tightly controlled and a successful boss kill. RG2 are on that same cusp.

TL.

Gallahan · October 10, 2006, 11:32:33 PM

so MC isnt interesting enough, i might know a solution to make MC more interesting, we could start thinking out of the box of class roles and let people do something else than their used to. And no this is not my way of saying LET ME TANK :woot2: , but to be quite honest we reached a point where MC is easy and hence boring, but what makes it interesting then? Doing something out of the ordinary can save my day, someone mentioned Onyxia earlier, well i've been doing Ony for about a year now, u think i find that fight boring? (answer is yes) then a couple of times ago, i was made MT1, couldnt hold the aggro though, but was still about the my best try on Ony ever, why? because it was fun, i was doing something im not that used to.

But ofc. this doesnt help with BWL. As it is already said BWL is all about dedication, if the group is dedicated and people show up every time, we win, if not we loose. Its like that in any instance but BWL has a way of cracking RGs:boxing: .

Yrthal · October 11, 2006, 06:41:50 AM

Quote from: Gallahan;155580so MC isnt interesting enough, i might know a solution to make MC more interesting, we could start thinking out of the box of class roles and let people do something else than their used to. And no this is not my way of saying LET ME TANK :woot2: , but to be quite honest we reached a point where MC is easy and hence boring, but what makes it interesting then? Doing something out of the ordinary can save my day, someone mentioned Onyxia earlier, well i've been doing Ony for about a year now, u think i find that fight boring? (answer is yes) then a couple of times ago, i was made MT1, couldnt hold the aggro though, but was still about the my best try on Ony ever, why? because it was fun, i was doing something im not that used to.

But ofc. this doesnt help with BWL. As it is already said BWL is all about dedication, if the group is dedicated and people show up every time, we win, if not we loose. Its like that in any instance but BWL has a way of cracking RGs:boxing: .

Partly agree with you.

There has been major changes in RG2 for the last couple of weeks, we have lost players and new ones have come. Thanks for that we are able to raid. BUT. They dont know us and we dont know them. My opinion is we need to "go back to basics" (wich doesent improve our progress in BWL atm) but such simple things as MC raids and OL raids is enough just so we can get to know eachother, how to play with eachothers in different situations. You cant expect to pull new members in BWL that doesent even got some parts of T1 and lack of FR gear and even more expirience, and believe that its gonna be a succes. It all takes time, wich i belive that fx MC can fix. Gear them up, make some gear, and hope to become dedicated an ready to put some efford in proggres in BWL.

I belive the reason RG1 is so far as they are cause they know eachoter and have been playing together as a "Team" for quite some while now.

The key to success is is dedication and xpirience as a team!
(but hey this is just 1 mans opinion)

DonnieKingo · October 11, 2006, 06:57:40 AM

I agree with you Yrthal.

To make MC more interesting we could go for speed-records every time.

The last couple of times in MC we have started out nice - good speed and rather good control - but the speed seems to decrease when approching Garr. I think its great fun to rush through MC - pulling the next mob just before the current one is down - it forces people to be on their toes.

If we could keep up the speed - without adding too many wipes - i think MC could be fun again, and in the mean time - people will get some gear, and we can be done and ready for Ony ealier - and hopefully more will join in on the Ony-action.

Yrthal · October 11, 2006, 07:19:32 AM

Great Idea DK!

And while we do the MC thigy and we are saved we can stil give a try at BWL @ monday or Thursdays, depends wich day we intend doing MC

btw just a fun episode we had last time.. like we pulled 2 giants, 2 corehounds and 1 annihilator, AND DIDENT whipe.. that was awsome!

Claw · October 11, 2006, 07:29:48 AM

Quote from: nightshadel;155404(hmm think what i am trying to say is: Maybe find a way of making mc fun again?)

u have a point there,
wee have a lot of leaving members in RG2 and alot of new members wee NEED to gear up in some way, yes SOG one is starting up but wee CanÂ´t enshure that evry rg2 member gets the gear priority, so yes wee will need to get people back to MC and raid it some more AND HOPE for that people stays in RG2 when they got their gear, and give it a shot doing progress in BWL.

Its expencive to make progress, but wee all get the common goal and its sucsess, and evry time wee get a boss down people are happy, wee should stick together and work as a team.

il say go back to MC gear up and stick together and do progress