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Started by lunares, October 12, 2006, 10:13:59 PM

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lunares

lo fury,
 
de laatste tijd gaat het raiden wat minder (dat heb je vandaag wel gezien met sartura). Dit komt onder andere door minder healers in de raid. Aangezien ik me aardig betrokken voel hiermee als priest heb ik de guardian speccs gereviewd en was verbaasd dat jij een full pvp spec hebt.
Als we dit in healing done omzetten betekend dat jij 33%-50% minder healing hebt als een disc/holy of holy/disc priest. Ook qua agro management hebt je met die spec veel minder (geen silent resolve). Op het moment kunnen we dit niet goedkeuren omdat je heel veel healing potentieel mist. Dit is de reden waarom ik deze PM stuur. Ik zou graag willen dat je de mogelijkheid overweegt om te respeccen naar holy/disc of disc/holy. Als je, je antwoord hebt geef dit dan aan mij door. Ik zal niet tegen je liegen en zeggen dat het antwoord geen invloed heeft, want dat heeft het wel. Ik hoop spoedig een antwoord van je te ontvangen.
 
groeten,
 
Lunares
 
This is the summary of the mail plz read it and give me your opinion. (bastet you ofc on the dutch version plz). This so i can send it asap (will check on errors tomorrow)
 
 
Lo fury,
 
Lately the raids have been going a bit less. This is partially cause of a lack of healers. I have reviewed the specs of all the guardians priests and to my surprise you have a purely pvp spec. We have never enforced specs but this spec is about 33%-50% healing less then other priests not to mention agro management (like silent resolve). Atm this is not acceptable in the raid group cause we really lack your healing potential. Hence this PM. I would like you to consider the option to respec and give me an answer on your view on it. I will not lie to you and tell you your decission does not have any implications cause it will.
 
regards,
 
Lunares
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TeaLeaf

Quote from: lunares;156173Lo fury,
 
Lately the raids have been going a bit less. This is partially cause of a lack of healers. I have reviewed the specs of all the guardians priests and to my surprise you have a purely pvp spec. We have never enforced specs but this spec is about 33%-50% healing less then other priests not to mention agro management (like silent resolve). Atm this is not acceptable in the raid group cause we really lack your healing potential. Hence this PM. I would like you to consider the option to respec and give me an answer on your view on it. I will not lie to you and tell you your decission does not have any implications cause it will.
 
regards,
 
Lunares
The only thing I would add is that the healing is 33-50% of the normal priest healing (ie a 50-65% reduction), not a 35-50% reduction.  Otherwise it states the position well and I'm happy with it.  Thanks for taking time to word it.

TL.
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Bastet

looks good, appart from what TL allready said. You might want to ask why he is pvp spec, since he doesnt do anything but raid with his priest.
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Padding

Yep, like i also told Vargen, since he's PVP'ing with his priest
 
I hope Vargen will respecc and try to look at it from an academic angle. I know Vargen is usually a lot in Bear form but most druids (except Akall) is usually fairly low on healing. Healing is essential, i think we all can recognise that, so we need to shake the lemon tree, and see what falls down
 
Ofcoz Vargen if you need money for Respeccing, just contact me


Bastet

#4
Had a chat last night w/ vargen, it will make him a worse healer since he gains skills he dont know how to use, and loses 20% mana from HOTW (feral). And the raid loses a nifty back up tank.
 
The reason druids are low on healing is cause we has 2 new lads w/ lame kit, bob is off for a bit w/ computer problems, and vargen is tanking/dpsing a bit (or trying anyways :narnar:)
 
So i suppose we just got to kick him to stay in healer mode a bit more. Can i ? :norty:
 
Druid and paladin are one of the lucky classes, paladin only needs 21 points for healing, and druid needs 13 in resto and can make up the loss of mana effiency w/ feral +mana or balance - mana cost talents if they go into those trees.
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Padding

I still would like Vargen to respecc to fully healing and see if he can feel the difference. Allthough we may be lacking a backup tank, we can use paladins or maybe the extra healing just keeps the tanks up
 
Can Vargen please just try it, and deliver input to the FM group?


Vargen

I allready have the mana regen and mana efficiancy talents as well as Nature's swiftness. The only thing I will gain is 10% more healing spellpower, 50% crit on regrowth and swiftmend which I have never used.

I do think we could get the other druids we have up the healing list when they get some more gear though. I've never been much good at healing the small heals needed for trashmobs in instances and so on, so that puts me a fair bit down the list by default. When I do try, it puts my overhealing up by about 30% making it more then 50% total. But then well timed large heals are often just as important. I don't know what the Pally cast time is, but for a Druid to compete with Priests 1.5 sec with their 3 sec cast is a bit useless imo. But if topping the healing lists are that important, I'll give it a go. Expect my overhealing to dubble or more though.
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Vargen

http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wow0101cp8.jpg

This is me healing full out on trash mobs and all. That is 100 000 more healing wasted then what is effective. And I was not trying to overheal, just heal when 'needed'. Ofc, the bossfights pulled my overhealing back down again, but apparently not a lot relative to what was done on trash. My quickest and most mana inefficient heal, Regrowth, is 2,5 sec cast. Flashheal is 1,5 and I think Flash of light is pretty close. Just showing ya.

Now I would like to consider the difference if say on the pack inbetween bosses. How much DPS would we gain if say, Dajo were to go DPS in stead of tanking? Given the chance I would really like to get rid of all my kitty points and replace them with teddy points for incresed aggro management and maybe free up some DPS by tanking some trash. My Resto talents would stay the same, and I feel I have the gear level both on healing and on feral to pull this off.
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