RGT Review - 17/3

[Slush]

Wait. No.

TL had 3 bullets in his original post and I would like to stress that, as this is important:
• Attention to detail
• Survivability
• DPS familiarity  (I would like to add "maximize healing output/mana management" for healers and "CD management" for tanks here)

But healers and tanks so far has been good. If Tirk went oom at 50% on a boss fight (as he did on Choggy), he fixed it to next try. And a couple of tries later we had Choggy on 6%.
Hal knows when to put his wings on, and his buff bar says so. We can all see that.
If I want twisted to do something different on tanking one of the Council members, I whisper him. He fix, or take it to forums to get it fixed.
I come prepared, knowing my role. If theres some questions I have on healing/healing assignemts ->> /dmrhealz (there is a reason for them channels).

To get end-game content down, everyone needs to do their part. Even you, Noreia.
Everyone needs to carry their own weight.
If this cant be done, dont sign up. No, seriously. Im not wiping for 3 hours because 1/10 doesnt prepare/learn.

[TeaLeaf]

I'm glad we're getting some reaction to this thread, finally.  It's what I wanted, for people to stop and think about what they do when they commit to the other raiders to spend 3 hours with them 3 nights each week.

Until lately DMR was a casual guild with a raiding unit which went into the difficult content but not on that "I give up my RL" level.

Sorry but this a complete untruth.  Quite simply we are not even close to hardcore.  However we are now asking people to be more accountable and to have some clue about a fight so that the other 9 people in the instance are not wasting their time.  

How *you* prepare is for you to decide, but the important thing is that you prepare at all.  I was pointing out that we had people in the raid that night who clearly (a) did not demonstrate that they had spent any time researching a fight, and (b) for a farm  fight did not know the mechanics of a boss we have been killing for 2 months.

Personally I like to have acclimatised a little to a fight before I get to it - otherwise I 'brim' and can't produce the dps I need to at the same time as handling the fight mechanics.   You do not need to prepare the same way, but you do need to prepare - and that's what we are asking everyone to do.

I do not usually make my boss diagrams in Powerpoint (like I did for that example), my 'real' boss notes are done on the back of A5 envelopes which are piled up on my desk next to my keyboard - but they help *me* understand the flow of the fight.    You need to do what works for you.  Mine took me 2 minutes to write so I do not think it is unreasonable to ask every member to be prepared for a fight and to understand the mechanics.  If you feel the need to refresh on boss tactics before a raid and find not knowing where the raid is going a problem then may I suggest spending 2 minutes on writing your own 'cue cards' for each boss so that you can review them whilst flying there?

Its not about how much time you spend online, its how you spend it.

You wanted to be quoted, so here it is!  QFT.

If you want to raid, then you need to commit to making best use of your time and the time invested by your fellow raiders.  Being knowledgeable about the fight, listening and responding to TS, making your toon perform at a decent level, none of this is hardcore, it's just common-sense.

My Choice
If being a DMR raider is about showing up and not being prepared, not knowing the fights, missing soft-enrage timers, failing at movement, not producing sufficient dps/tps/hps for your gear level, then I'm out.  I do not wish to spend 9 hours each week with people who do not spend a few minutes giving respect to their fellow raid members by preparing and performing properly.

On the other hand, if you think that performing at a reasonable level and spending a few minutes preparing for a new boss (and retaining knowledge of farm fights) is reasonable, then I'll see you on TS tonight for the raid and will look forward to sharing many new boss kills with you as we plough through the raid content together.  Let's use our limited casual time effectively, not waste it by not knowing what we are doing.

If you want to get into the next room then stop trying to walk through walls, open your eyes and walk through the doorway.  Not seeing what is in front of you is a path that leads only to bruises not enlightment.

You don't have to give up your real life to raid either.  I am not a 24/7 WoW gamer.  Check when I come online, it's really only for raids these days and the daily heroic on one toon only, just my priest.  

And to finish, I'll go all 'Slush' on you (and because he wants to quoted more):

I'm an efficient casual raider.
I have a full time job running my own business.
I have a wife that needs/wants a lot of attention.
I have 2 kids that need/want a lot of attention.
I drink not enough whisky, but in a good way.
I am taking 90 credits of study at the moment towards a mathematics degree (the equivalent of full-time study).
And... I still have time for 15 mins of preparation before every new boss, just to avoid n00b mistakes.

Go DMR!  Effective casual raiding for the masses.

[Switchback]

Rubbish....i just typed probably the best reply in the world...(sponsored by carlsberg) but got timed out

Main point was is we are being asked to address what we are doing wrong and how we can improve it....doesnt take alot of RL time...I can write the list tl and slush both have and add afew more bits to it like have several family deaths in the last few months and being on probation.Yes i havent turned in for a couple nights due to this but i have spoken to and made it known to officers.

Bottom line,spend 15/20 mins reaseraching fights and what u can do to improve to help 9 other peeps out....pure win after that

[hermioneg]

I dont know if this is the right thread .. however
Sunday night I'll be online, if you need a mage for the RGT (Sunday only) I'd be happy to lend a hand ...
my program is HCx1 , TB dailies and archy. so if you need /w me and I will come soon