HEROIC Tortos - DEFEATED 18/08/13

Started by TeaLeaf, May 13, 2013, 07:25:29 AM

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TeaLeaf

TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

TeaLeaf

2 tanks (?paladin 1 tank?)
2 Healers
6 DPS (ideally with aoe slows) - DK chillblains etc

Assign DPS to turtles
Assign 1-2 DPS to bats

Slow all turtles, single target, then assign 2 others to individually slow post AOE slow

Assign interrupts to a 2-3 people for backup, communicate!
Tanks: Minor CD for boss snap bite

Bats' 'drain weak' activates at sub-550k HP

Quake Stomp (every 60 secs) - now does 100% maximum HP - you *have* to have some kind of CD (every 60 seconds) and work a rotation

New Ability
5  crystals at side - click gives 50% HP shield & absorbs all healing - NEVER take when on low HP, aim for 90+% only
Aim to uses crytals immediately after rockfall and when you are healed up
Tanks difficult to get the crystal - between melee hits it can just be done
Check Holy Prism for Bat threat

Tortos @ 20% = constant turtles
Wait for Turtles at c.25%, kill Turtles and then Burn!
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Ziley

I get the feeling this fight might be very boring for me.

Insert: "........................................................." into google translate and make the target language japanese. Then have it read aloud and enjoy the ridiculousness.

TeaLeaf

Weak Auras to show value of Crystal Shield dCZtcaGEc4LIsTliyBuQzQuPztQBQu13Ks7uk2lA3kz)ePFkQmms8Bv1GjIHtOoiLKUnuDmfDorvlesTukPSyLkwUcpuu0tbltQ8CkonvnvQmzOmDHll5QIc9mc56QYgPeBLazZQy7usCEizCq00uPVtjvJKa1NjPrlvnEi0LefClIY1uk3tuYFjQoSipMGMt6iKOJbbdHjcxeAryQqaNagbm6iC(Ra8cuSrKcbeZDoMkOfzT3Tz7uPR1EtzUPC5r29saZBeRtOCfIbHmyimkv)F5qjUiefIbbpgHmhOmrslvc0xATujckPFfHegMp8)vslpgEv1AyOJbbu5ohtf0cYlY853SfDf1Huu7SJhzxBcNrcVGyKIeBSjyDpw0tl38Dk2kkZBE7UUwKxEKDTjSE4UHxvTgg2mj0xE1(Gw2226AT3MZPTOjY2oEKDrsq)ty0r4zk5c8xfrtqG)Qi46h)vjvY)ivIR)TWQbHXxx0ra)PdpDmyqWiUeshbJFPQl2mjG)0HNo2mjAgmiiuNmg6iy8lvDryFUMSjG)0HNoc7Z1KnrZGbdcXWRQwd6iSs4L8V4AKI)Gqwzrq4ZeFC59ESIq4XlmcptjFLWlIMG5TJW)BfenHvcViK5aLjsAPsG(sRjGv78ohhkXfbbBvRT3sg3LW5P1gHPfrZGbbRWM5vrHbja
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Ammon

Was discussing with a friend some issues that were to be had on Tortos, and he offered an alternative albeit risky tactic.

His approach involved a frost dk, or brewmaster monk simply kiting the bats, leaving people free to smash the turtles and the boss.
its im told riskier with a dk than a monk but still doable.

the 1.5s stun during stomp ofc makes it very dangerous.

TeaLeaf

You're right, that one is a bit RNG, not sure I'd like to do that given that you get stunned on quake stomp, knocked up with turtles and generally have to avoid rockfall!  

Overall I think we are progressing ok on this boss, but some of our current problems will solve themselves once we get earlier components of the fight under control.   For example, bats are only a problem if we don't kill turtles quickly enough (and because we're still killing turtles and we have not yet got onto killing bats so the bats become the problem).   At the moment we're not killing bats quickly enough because we're losing people early - and that's where we need to focus imo.

Crystal Shell
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/vtqalmppfntpuf3a/spell/137633/?enc=wipes&boss=67977
There's a big variance in how much damage these absorb across all of our tries.   Some of this variance will be due to early death etc, but we need to make sure that we use our crystal shell at the right time (ie after a quake stomp and once you are close to or at full HP again)

Whirl Turtle Damage
Devlan   95209511   29.4 %
Teaell           68409690   21.1 %
Pinnfiske   39429059   12.2 %
Tanales   36075836   11.1 %
Spacegoát   28160460   8.7 %

We need to do more and stay alive longer to do more of it.    

-Pinn & Space you need to watch your Bat aggro - it killed you a fair few times - focus on turtles (there's quite a few times where you picked up bat aggro before all the turtles were dead, so watch your choice of spells when they spawn!).  If you continue to get problems with bat threat then do dps to the boss instead and let others who can threat dump handle the bats.

-Tanales you should be up with Dev & me for damage to turtles, it's our single biggest priority.   On most tries it seems you did more damage to the boss whilst turtles were alive than you did to the turtles, so make sure you target the turtles as a prio please!
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/vtqalmppfntpuf3a/analyze/dd/target/?source=7&enc=wipes&boss=67977

Priorities
If we get turtles down quickly we get:
-better healing due to less interrupts
-more dps time on bats so bats are no longer a problem
-more dps time on boss
-better debuff control which means more BUFFED dps time on bats & boss!

Tortos will go down if we handle the adds correctly - Adds are our focus, NOT the boss!

Stay on task please folks and we'll handle this one.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

TeaLeaf

Great kill last night.    

Ran 1 tank, 2 heals, 2 melee dps, rest ranged.

Control is the key.    Burn from 19% was close, perhaps wait another set of turtles next time.    

Logs are up.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)