Backupprograms for networks

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DuVeL

March 23, 2006, 08:40:33 AM
Hi guys, a question for my work.
Are there any programs which are easy to use so you can backup with a few simple clicks?
We now have on a external USBport a 150 GB storagefacility (and a spare which will be used if the other is full).
So, do you have any easy to use programs for backing up?

Greetz Pete
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TeaLeaf

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March 23, 2006, 09:00:45 AM
Veritas/Stomp BackupMyPC/Backup Exec

Fairly reliable and not too expensive, assuming you want to backup network shares and not Exchange store etc.  Windows backup seems to work much more reliably too now on Win 2K3 Server.

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Gandalf

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March 23, 2006, 09:02:00 AM
Windows XP?

Then Start | All Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Backup

If you have XP Home then it's not installed by default but is on the CD, just add remove programs and Windows components. Pro it's installed by default.

Why suggest this? It's free :)

Otherwise you're looking at a paid for version such as Symantec Ghost or Veritas Backup Exec.

Also, it may be worth checking the software that came with the USB HDD as many now come with their own backup utility.
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DuVeL

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March 23, 2006, 10:02:44 AM
I must add that we have one network with on one computer the USBstorage.
The storage device is an normal western Digital External USB Hard Drive.

thanks so far for the info guys!  8)
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Rabbi Bob

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March 23, 2006, 10:58:33 AM
Backing up files on a network,, batch file & such

I did end up changing the approach:

Rather than attaching with a local user, the backup folder is allowed R/W by Everyone.  The user than creates their first back and at that time, I go in and remove Everyone and only allow the administrator group and the user R/W within their folder structure.
#!/usr/bin/admin
use warnings;
use strict;
use boot;

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DuVeL

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March 23, 2006, 11:13:55 AM
Here's the layout for our servers and so:


PC5 is the server which has all the files on it and is the computer we all remotly draw from.

RB, how does this work? I'm a bit of a n00b with backups and networks.  :blush:
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Anonymous

#6
March 23, 2006, 11:14:01 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Rabbi Bob@Mar 23 2006, 10:58 AM
Backing up files on a network,, batch file & such

I did end up changing the approach:

Rather than attaching with a local user, the backup folder is allowed R/W by Everyone.  The user than creates their first back and at that time, I go in and remove Everyone and only allow the administrator group and the user R/W within their folder structure.
[post=118873]Quoted post[/post]
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You can set permissions very easily using xcacls from the Resource kit

xcacls \\server\share\%username% /T /Y /G "DOMAIN\Domain Admins":F DOMAIN\%username%:F

It gives the user and hte Domain admins rights to a folder that you have just created :)

Rabbi Bob

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March 23, 2006, 11:51:36 AM
Can a user who is a User on the remote server set the permissions and does this sever parent propagating permissions?

I'll look at it later, that looks interesting.  Thanks

Duvel, the batch file in that post is pretty well commented, see the REM statements.  In  summary, it uses ntbackup to create a backup file on the local PC first and then attaches to a network share & moves the file to the share.

I'll try to update with my latest if I remember.  I found an easier way to create the backup.bks file too, just go into backup, check everything you want backed up and save the settings as backup.bks, that's it.
#!/usr/bin/admin
use warnings;
use strict;
use boot;

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Anonymous

#8
March 23, 2006, 12:55:22 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Rabbi Bob@Mar 23 2006, 11:51 AM
Can a user who is a User on the remote server set the permissions and does this sever parent propagating permissions?
[post=118886]Quoted post[/post]
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We use this in a batch file which reads %username% from hte system variables and creates a folder with the username and then sets hte ACLs. We send the batch file to hte users and they run it OK with no probs. It might be that the share itself has full control for everyone set so that the user can create the folder but they certainly don't need any special rights :D

Bunce

#9
March 24, 2006, 11:55:38 AM
Sorry if you are going to repeat yourself but as this problem is relevant to one of my issues i thought i'd pop my question in there.

Away from network side of things.
One of our managers travels alot with his laptop and we need to manage his backup routeen. Sadly, he's not very good with computers at all. So we need a program that is simple and reliable.

So far we've not liked "windows backup" as it has not seemed to be that reliable.
The only files that we want to backup are my documents and his email pst file.
With the windows backup we used incremental so it only backed up files that changed, but unless we were doing something fundementally wrong, this didn't seem to actually work and when we double checked the files, they were months out of date.

Does anyone know of a simple program that will backup selected files and folders easily to an external hard drive. As in, 1 click. (2 clicks might be too much for the person in question :P)
Richard Bunce (AKA Bunzel)

Anonymous

#10
March 24, 2006, 12:02:53 PM
Norton Ghost

Gone_Away

#11
March 24, 2006, 04:50:41 PM
Guys. I work for BakBone Software.

Bunce... We have recently partnered with a company called Otium. They have a little product called UtiliSync that I'm using on my laptop to backup my files to our server which is in turn backed up. You can get a demo here:

http://www.otium.co.uk/downloads/index.htm

For Duvel you may want to consider a single server addition of our backup product NetVault. You can also get a demo of that here:

http://www.bakbone.com/products/downloads/

Let me know what you think and if you need any help.

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