RG2 study this for Monday

Started by Ubar, September 22, 2006, 02:46:22 PM

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Quote from: Bastet;152185This cant be done due to the nature of the druid class call i am afraid. Cause you will lose 4/5 of your bear armor and 3k hp roughly.

It has been done. Any druid who would like to attempt this should load up on dodge, agi and stam. It will be hard on the healers though; warriors have a definate on Nef. I wouldn't advice anyone to try it out :tongue: .
 
Quote from: Bastet;152185His MS cant crit afaik, but druids have enough armor and hp to do this w/o flasks apperantly, if you have enough armor you can take up to 25% less dmg then a prot spec tank. And even with flasks we still lose warriors every so often.

Yes, I already figured out that his MS can't crit anymore (scroll up a couple posts). They appearently made it impossible for any mob's special ability to crit a couple of patches ago (good thing too).
 
I read that there are even druids that solo tank Broodlord :blink: . I guess if you got a (very) well equiped feral druid in your guild it might be preferable to let him tank, since druids have greater aggro generation potential then warriors. (Tanking him solo doesn't sound all that smart though).
 
But you're wrong about that druids will take less damage then a warrior. Yes, we can easily hit the armor cap vs level 63 mobs. However we can not parry or block. We also do not have defensive stance (so warriors will take 10% less magic damage in any case). And above all druids will get critted, since we lack defense gear (crits are tank killer #1). I estimate that the difference in damage taken between a druid and a warrior will be between 5 and 15 percent in the warriors advantage (druids do have the upper hand if they're both blue geared, but that's irrelevant in this case). However, warriors rely on avoiding damage and druid on mitigating / absorbing it. Combine this fact with the druids bigger health pool and it becomes clear that druids are easier to heal, since they will take damage in a more predictiable / controlled manner; druids just get hit (nearly) every time and the damage they take per hit is lower because of their high armor (causing rage to build up steadily as well). Crushing blows also do less damage, due to our high armor. Same goes for crits, although they are still a big problem, since currently we have no way of avoiding them (where as warriors do). Druid do not have any 'oh ****' skills either, like shield wall or last stand, nor can they use consumables in forms. Immunity to snares, polymorph and certain mind control spells is nice though.
 
All in all warriors have the advantage when it comes to tanking. Although in some cases it might be preferable to have a druid tank. (And no I don't just mean hexxer, because of our polymorph immunity :narnar: ).
For example:
-If rage generation is a problem, since druids are more rage efficient then warriors (druids only need +/- 9.5 rage per second to spam every rage generating skill they have).
-If aggro generation is a problem. Druids have a (far) greater aggro potential and our threat generation scales very well. A druid that is specced and geared for tanking will generate upwards of 800 threat per second under the condition that they have sufficient rage (yes I'm serious, this is no joke). Although a mobs armor will nerf the ability to generate threat; just get feral faerie fire and 5 sunders on there and it won't be a problem at all.
-And finally, as discussed above, to give the healers an easier time in certain cases. But keep in mind that this does not apply to every encounter.
 
All of the above sound nice, but don't get me wrong, a prot warrior will be a better choice in nearly every case. On the other hand a bear tank is a better choice then a DPS warrior. There is no reason why you shouldn't have druid MT3 or MT4. Having a couple imba feral druids in the guild can be very beneficial to the raid group. Righteous RG1 has two for example. /drool at Kire's gear :dribble: (that guy hit 30k armor recently, with the AV buff :blink: ).
 
Oh, before I forget to mention it, feral druid gear is a lot cheaper to repair then warrior epics :norty: .
 
P.S.: Sorry for the wall of text, when I start typing I just can't stop :biggrin: .

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