For Sale: AMD XP3000+ for £45 ono

[FatBob]

have just received 2 x jiuhb xp1700
and also just now ordered
Corsair XMS 512Mb DDR 400MHz PC3200 Cas 2 -Low Latency Platinum memory (from scan.co.uk todays special @ £110.45 inc).
heres what they said about it
" Introducing Corsair XMS 3500 512Mb Memory:
The CMX512-3500C2 is a 512 MByte, dual bank, ultra-performance DDR
SDRAM DIMM screened specifically for gaming applications. This part has been selected by Corsairs Compatibility Lab for its outstanding performance in motherboards commonly used in gaming rigs. This memory has been
verified to operate at 234MHz (2-4-4, 1T command rate). Generally, one 512 MByte module will outperform two 256 MByte modules in a given motherboard. Side-by-side comparison indicates that this is one of the fastest DDR modules available in the world.
Implemented using 32M x 8 DDR SDRAM with 5.0 nanosecond access time.
100% tested at 234Mhz in high performance KT400 based motherboards
integrated aluminium heatspreader for improved thermal performance
Benchmarked over multiple chipsets, processors, and motherboards
Legendary Corsair reliability and service.
Each module is tested (by Corsair) in an Asus A7V8X at 234Mhz" ...mmmm.....fastest in the world!!!.
also while i had the wifes credit card  8O and to complement the above

Abit NF7-S (V1.2) - nForce2 - USB2+A133/SATA+Dual DDR400+AGP8x motherboard (again from scan @ £84.60 inc)
 
also found this for 11 quid so i thought id give it a try

IOSS RD7-CoolingAfter
PC fan coolers are of utmost importance for computers today. It minimizes the pc temperature emitted by heat generating device during operation. The temperature inside the chassis is at a balance level while system is running. But once the system is shutdown, the fan will automatically stop causing the temperature to rise and linger for long period. With the RD7-CA, it will keep the fan(s) from dissipating heat for a specified time once the system is shut down. The gradual cool-down protects the electrical components from any damage that a sudden shutdown may cause after normal use of pc. Overclocking at high speed may cause even worse after shutting down abruptly. RD7-CA completely cools down and minimizes the bad effects of heat to the pc.
RD7 CA is tiny and works quietly
Dimension: 50x32mm (with mounting tab, 50x52mm)
Maximum output rating: 12W/Fan
NB: This requires a WOL connection on your motherboard
 
ahh...i love scan and i love my wifes credit rating !!!!

hopefully will build over the weekend (yeah right !)

this means (if it all works) that i will have virtually a whole pc for sale at the lan
abit kg7L mobo,256mb ddr pc2100 ram,abit siluro gf3 ti200,athlon t-bird 1.4(a damn fine overclocking chip had it stable at 1598mhz with just a decent copper heatsink. although once i did that i put it straight back to 1.4 didnt know when i was upgrading so better safe than sorry !!!!),SB audigy 5.1 soundcard,10/100 3com ethernet card
all that is needed extra is a hard drive and a case et voila a new(ish) pc
all the above stuff was brought new by me 8 months ago so is all in good nick. havent sorted out a price yet, but will maybe listen to reasonable offers for the lot.

[albert]

Question: I see a lot of the 3200 and 3500 RAM selling in packs 1 x 512MB or 2 x 256MB. The Abit nForce mobos.... would they support:
2 x Corsair XMS 512Mb DDR 434MHz PC3500 Cas 2 - with Heat Spreader

?

[TeaLeaf]

Question: I see a lot of the 3200 and 3500 RAM selling in packs 1 x 512MB or 2 x 256MB. The Abit nForce mobos.... would they support:
2 x Corsair XMS 512Mb DDR 434MHz PC3500 Cas 2 - with Heat Spreader

?

Yes.

The reason you see more 'dual packs' of ddr ram these days is because of the the dual channel ram system that is available via, e.g. nForce2 chipsets.

Ignoring dual channel ram, a single 512MB stick of ddr ram will outperform 2 x 256MB sticks of ddr ram when compared on a single channel ram mobo.

If you put the ram into a dual channel capable ram mobo the 2 x 256MB sticks will outperform the single stick (which by virtue of being on its own cannot benefit from dual channel architecture).

What nvidia did with the nForce was to create 2 separate memory channels (64 bits each) creating an effective 128-bit memory bus. Data can be transferred from the memory to the chipset 128 bits per transfer rather than the normal 64 bits per transfer. That doesn't necessarily translate to a 2:1 performance improvement, but it is faster than a single stick of DDR RAM.

The reason that you see the RAM sold as 'dual packs' is because of the performance drop that is seen when 2 memory sticks of different speeds work together in dual channel mode.  Memory will only work at the speed of the slowest, but in dual channel mode there is an extra penalty as well. As every stick of ram is 'slightly' different to the next (due to inevitable differences in manufacturing processes) then you need to make sure that the memory sticks that you want to use in a pair are as closely matches as possible AND will work at the rated speed in dual channel mode.  So, the theory is that if you test and match the ram sticks in speed terms as closely as possible you should see the benefits of the dual channel performance and not get any of the disdvanatges of mismatched memory speeds.

Hope this helps.

TL.  

[TeaLeaf]

have just received 2 x jiuhb xp1700
and also just now ordered
Corsair XMS 512Mb DDR 400MHz PC3200 Cas 2 -Low Latency Platinum memory (from scan.co.uk todays special @ £110.45 inc).
Abit NF7-S (V1.2) - nForce2 - USB2+A133/SATA+Dual DDR400+AGP8x motherboard (again from scan @ £84.60 inc)
IOSS RD7-CoolingAfter
all that is needed extra is a hard drive and a case et voila a new(ish) pc

Nice one FatBob  

Damn, Albert - have you started an upgrade craze?   :lol:   I think you may have - I'll post my purchase list once it is fully finalised.  Just looking for that 'special' deal right now.......

TL.  

[albert]

/me draws TLs attention to the advertisment that began this whole saga and its instigator!    :lol:  

[albert]

I have changed my mind about the heatsink and fan after a discussion I was having with Smite. I went and looked at the figures and found a review of the Thermalright - it cools well, but it is real noisy 8O  The Zalman cools real well and is quiet. Go with the Zalman - I finally remembered that it is what I use in my own system
TL.

I just checked the Zelman pages on Overclockers and the fans all seam to be geared towards the P4 chips. What model did you have in mind TL?

Ignore, I read the review, WOW, a veerd beast. Sold to the man with the dog. 8O

[albert]

Well here is my planned outage, I mean system:

XP1700 OEM Thoroughbred cores JIUHB £45
ABIT NF7-S V2.0 £91.06
Enermax EG465AX-VE(G)(FMA) 460W ATX Power Supply £76.38
Zalman Flower CNPS6000-Cu Silent Socket A CPU Cooler £32.08
Arctic Silver III Thermal Compound (3g) (OA-002-AC)  Â£4.11
120GB Caviar , WD1200JB,7200rpm, 8MB £120
80GB Caviar, WD800JB, 7200rpm, 8mb £80
Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200 TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 (MY-018-CS) £243.87
Abit OTES GeForce 4 Ti 4200 (clocked to 305/600) Got £0
Creative SB Audigy Got £0
SONY FDD 1.44MB OEM/6664 £10.81
LiteON 16x DVD-ROM - Retail (CD-008-LO) £31.73
Plus a case of some description £100
Some cables tidies to make this all fit in a box
Some silly lights (NOT)

Please can someone sanity chekc this and make any recommendations. :?

Takes me to about £900    my budget was £500. But I got a suprise bonus of £200 from work this week  . And the deciding factor is, I must pass my exam tomorrow, if I do then I buy. And my missus has given me £100 for my 30th  (old) birthday so what does tham make? £800 plus a £100 birthday pressie from me (as well as £500 for the initial budget)


[size=18][/size]£900    :lol:  

[sheepy]

FB if i can get some money together b4 the lan then i may well be up for that mobo, cpu and ram thats if i can get some money together and if u do me a good deal!

[albert]

FB if i can get some money together b4 the lan then i may well be up for that mobo, cpu and ram thats if i can get some money together and if u do me a good deal!

Saturday morning, 2am, behind Barclays in Cambridge. Bring a balaclava, and wear gloves.  :wink:  :lol:

[TeaLeaf]

Oi JB!  STop gassing about free windows and get on with something important, like does the prometeia template fit that Abit mobo  

TL.  

[albert]

Oi JB! STop gassing about free windows and get on with something important, like does the prometeia template fit that Abit mobo

TL.

Big Old Fart !  :onfire:

[JB]

Bugger your prometian type thing, i wanna know why my processor is running at near 60 degrees.  =/

[sheepy]

u got a sh!t cooler, or u must have cr4ppy cooling system around your case. somethings gotta b wrong with it.

[TeaLeaf]

Bugger your prometian type thing, i wanna know why my processor is running at near 60 degrees. =/

You'll need to take your heat sink off and reseat it with fresh AS3.  Seeing as ti was the last of the tube you put on yesterday you probably put some really manky goop on the cpu  


But while you have the heatsink off, check if the prometeia template fits the mobo eh, now there's a good chap  :wink:

TL.  

[JB]

u got a sh!t cooler, or u must have cr4ppy cooling system around your case. somethings gotta b wrong with it.

Wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong.