TBC and Raiding, what will you do?

smilodon · December 20, 2006, 09:01:52 AM

I'm probably going to shoot to Lv 70 fairly fast and then see if I can join RG1 or 2 (slots permitting) for TBC dungeons.

I'd like to at least take a run round MC, AQ, BWL & Nax though, and I assume that they will not be that hard for Lv 70's to work through. As I understand it none of the armour drops in the current Lv 60 raid stuff will match the world drop, quest items etc you can get at Lv 70. So I don't imagine I will grind for any Lv 60 armour sets. I assume they wil become obsolete as who would want to spend weeks/months raiding BWL for gear that they could have right away in TBC (assuming they buy the expansion)?

Therefore continuing to raid Lv 60 dungeons at Lv 70 seems an odd thing to do. I doubt there will be that much challenge. Would people who remain Lv 60 (i.e. don't buy the expansion) want a lot of Lv 70 players 'helping' them out in BWL etc? I would imagine it would take away from the fun of raiding?
But I wonder how many SOG members will not get the expansion and whether there will be enough left at Lv 60 to make up a 40 man raid group without bringing some Lv 70 players?

The current raid structure depends on there being many many Lv 60 players with nothing to do except raid and PvP. With the Level increase Lv 60 becomes the old Lv 50. And what did we do at Lv 50? A couple of runs through ST/Maraudon and then advance to Lv 60. So without players staying at Lv 60 for months, and why would they, the current end game raids seem to be obsolete?

Interesting times

TeaLeaf · December 20, 2006, 09:10:25 AM

Quote from: smilodon;168708As I understand it none of the armour drops in the current Lv 60 raid stuff will match the world drop, quest items etc you can get at Lv 70.

Some 'blue' L62 quest rewards exceed the class L60 Tier 2.5 epic equivalent.

Re current L60 instances: I understand that they will have their player cap reduced. Although this could be vicious rumour, but I have not been lucky enough to get into the beta so know little about the actuality and rely on the rumour.

TL.

jianlock · December 20, 2006, 09:29:26 AM

I won't rush to get to lvl 70, and i hope that i will get a xp or 2 while raiding with RG2.

Right now I just wanna see that new world and how the game will change after this major upgrade/addon.

sheepy · December 20, 2006, 09:47:38 AM

The fun with the old lvl 60 instances will be to see how few ppl you can raid them with!

soloing onyixa anyone?

jantore · December 20, 2006, 09:54:42 AM

There are alot of items from Naxx that have verry high lvl. Like the legendary staff for casters. And most likely alot of the T3 items.

But it's gonna be interesting to see how the new items from TBC will be.

JT

Gorion · December 20, 2006, 12:21:28 PM

Quote from: jantore;168719There are alot of items from Naxx that have verry high lvl. Like the legendary staff for casters. And most likely alot of the T3 items.

But it's gonna be interesting to see how the new items from TBC will be.

JT

well, TF + sulfuras are rated as a lvl 80 weapons
Atiesh as lvl 90
the current leg. ashbringer as lvl 76

they will be surpassed by tbc legendaries, but for tbc blues to surpass current legendaries, well i think that would be somewhat stupid

and the idea that legendaries cant be upgraded is far more stupid than that

Tanales · December 20, 2006, 02:44:27 PM

Current 40 man instances will not have thier player capped changed at the release of TBC, confirmed several times by Blizz.

Tan.

Shadowsong · December 22, 2006, 05:58:16 PM

If you can do BWL or higher dungeons, you can go on raiding till level 62 or something.

If you can only do MC or below, don't bother. Some silly level 62 ooze green item is waaaaaay better than most MC items you'll ever get.

One of the first quests in Outland already can give you plate leggings way better than Might...maybe even better than Wrath (dps-wise).

The first 5-man dungeons is level 60-62, and my guess is, that a blue level 60 item there will be of equal quality of BWL epix now (yeah, items in TBC in Outland are insane).

AQ40 and Naxx gear/weaps are the only things that will remain usefull for a long time even in TBC.

I'm afraid I have no choise but to bore to death untill TBC comes out, then I'll see what I'm gonna do (warrior is a bitch to play in outland:angry: )

smilodon · December 23, 2006, 06:51:09 PM

I have to admit I'm secretly hoping that TBC will indeed be a leveller regarding equipment. It will allow me to more or less become equal to the current RG1 players by the time we all reach Lv 70 (assuming most T3 stuff is weaker or compariable to Lv70 world drops.....big if?) Then all I will have to deal with, is being very very crap at raiding compared to all you RG1/2 fellows ;-)

But it must be a bit of a miserable time for anyone who has slaved away getting a full armour set in MC, BWL Nax etc only to find a berk like me can take a couple fo weeks off work, grind to Lv 70 and have better gear than their months of raiding at Lv60 got them. I'd be a bit upset to say the least. I'm not really sure a rise in the level cap was the right thing to do?

Gorion · December 23, 2006, 09:18:55 PM

its blizzards way of saying, hey thanks for the effort but f**k you neways, now go level and waste your time again, untill the next expansion. oh and dont forget to keep paying us for the semi-crap servers we offer

(which will prolly be emrald dream(theres already some files in wow named emrald dream))

Tanales · December 24, 2006, 01:03:24 AM

yeh, there will be atleast two more expantions, emerald dream and the maelstorm.

Gorion · December 24, 2006, 02:53:04 AM

dont forget northrend / icecrown glacier (throne of the lich king Arthas Menethil)

Tanales · December 25, 2006, 02:09:38 AM

yeh that one to, so that means we are looking at atleast 3 more years of WoW since Blizz have said they will release a new expantion pack every year from now,
and that you would need to have a raidgroup around lvl 90-100 to be able to kill Arthas, Race ya!

valtsace · December 25, 2006, 12:28:13 PM

And who knows what places Blizz will think up (Twisting Nether), just to get more ppl into WoW and pay them for crappy servers and hackers (:ranting2: )

Shadowsong · December 26, 2006, 11:45:51 PM

Emerald Dream is gonna be in this expansion if Im not mistaking....

Another Expansion is propably come...almost certain. I mean, come on, Northrend, fighting Arthas, you can't leave that out of the game now can ya?

However...the thought of waiting another 2 years...I don't know....current end game was already pretty f***ed up. And warrior nerfs didn't quite make the game more fun.

Ah well, it's still something for the future...let's get TBC first and see what happens.