Race Talk

[vobler]

:yahoo: I also promoted to a D license... (with a respectable irating of 2180)
I'm tempted to buy the mazda or the skip...

You can't advance to C without at least one of them.

[Doorman]

:yahoo: I also promoted to a D license... (with a respectable irating of 2180)
I'm tempted to buy the mazda or the skip...

Skippy, Skippy, Skippy, Skippy.

[The Moose]

Skippy, Skippy, Skippy, Skippy.

 This^^^

[Katsushika Matsumoto]

Looks like I made up my mind. :lmfao:
Gonna buy the skip tomorrow...

[vobler]

Ron, are you going to do the Mazda this season?

If so, please give me a wink and we'll get together some evenings to do some practice sessions. I'll give you my set! :dribble:

[Doorman]

Ron, are you going to do the Mazda this season?

If so, please give me a wink and we'll get together some evenings to do some practice sessions. I'll give you my set! :dribble:

I had a test run in it this afternoon for quite a few laps and I think I'll get swamped! Scarey little bugger! :blink: But name the day.

EDIT: I think you meant 'give me the nod'. Give me a wink has other connotations! :flirty:

[vobler]

Since the last iRacing build with new camera controls there has been made a few videos

Here are a couple:

Over limit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT41WEOrcOo

Nothing else matters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxBrdsAGM5o

Slow it down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI9dUeNpBV0

[Doorman]

Slow it down. My favourite. Wouldn't engine sounds have been nice?

[obsolum]

Slow it down. My favourite.

That definitely is a nice video, indeed.

Without having played iRacing I can tell, just by watching that video, that it is way ahead of LFS in terms of... well... just about everything, really. Obviously I can't judge the interface and the online racing system - which is LFS' strongest point - but as far as graphics, car/track modelling and physics are concerned there doesn't seem to be any competition.

[Mille Sabords]

Nice of you Obsolum but I don not ncessarily agree.
The slow motion vid is very nice and shows the following:

It does indeed LOOKS so much better than LFS, especially the tracks.
I also like very much how the suspension work is shown on the single seaters, astonishing.
BUT
No tyres flex Too complex to model?
Smoke is not better than LFS's nice little round clouds they got here.
No dirt on tyre like nkp, how does Kunos do that?

So I do agree that visually LFS looks 10 years older, but I hope iracing will improve the core of the game soon (rather than releasing new paying content at this rate) - to convince me it is the real thing and not a rich man's toy. I'm a skeptic

[obsolum]

(...)
I also like very much how the suspension work is shown on the single seaters, astonishing.

The important thing to remember here is that that's not just eye candy. It's proof that the suspension is actually properly modeled, unlike LFS as far as I know. And I'm going to guess here but I assume that the suspension in tin top cars in iRacing are also modeled in as much detail as the suspension on the single seater cars, even though you can't see it.

No tyres flex Too complex to model?

Alright, that is indeed a one of the most important aspects of a racing sim. But, let's be honest here, as much as people like to rave about LFS' tyre model and tyre flex, it really isn't that good (yet).

Smoke is not better than LFS's nice little round clouds they got here.

That's a minor detail IMO. Good looking smoke is nice to have but it doesn't really add that much to the driving experience. It falls in the "eye candy" category for me.

No dirt on tyre like nkp, how does Kunos do that?

That's also a good point, and it's something that nKP does very well. But I was comparing to LFS, not nKP ;-) LFS also has tyre dirt factored into the equation but it's not shown visually.

So I do agree that visually LFS looks 10 years older, but I hope iracing will improve the core of the game soon (rather than releasing new paying content at this rate) - to convince me it is the real thing and not a rich man's toy. I'm a skeptic

Well I assume the guys at iRacing are at work at improving the experience. I would expect as much if I was a member. That being said, though, it really doesn't concern me because I will never try iRacing unless they drastically change their pricing/business model, which I doubt they will

[Doorman]

It occurred to me that while much is made of tyre physics and modelling, how aware are we of the effects? In LFS for instance the tyres flexing looks tremendous in a replay but I can't recall feeing that effect in my hands. Eye candy perhaps? Probably talking hevonen paska, but ker-ching! :2cents:

[Lameduck]

The important thing to remember here is that that's not just eye candy. It's proof that the suspension is actually properly modeled, unlike LFS as far as I know.

Try driving in LFS after pressing SHIFT+L, then you will see the suspension working and if you press F, you can see a graphical representation of the changes in forces, even in the tin-tops and the different suspension types.

[obsolum]

Try driving in LFS after pressing SHIFT+L, then you will see the suspension working and if you press F, you can see a graphical representation of the changes in forces, even in the tin-tops and the different suspension types.

Hmm, I knew about the F(orces) view but not about Shift+L view. Well, I stand corrected then

[vobler]

Posted by Colin ML in the iRacing forums

Park those expensive Loti, Radicals, Star Mazdas and strap yourself into the Jetta! I've been an iRacing subscriber exactly one year and I've had more fun racing the Jetta in two evenings than I have in every other race with all other cars combined! The racing is incredibly close and people are learning what you can and can't do in the car. It's simply superb. The races will be decided by 10ths of a second and 5 car trains will be the order of the day. I promise you, you'll learn more race craft in this car than anything else in iRacing.

I will be racing this car exclusively this season such is the fun factor