Race2Play reports etc.

[Jape]

As you guys may have aready noticed/read. I had old computer with fps/warp problems in GPC F1600, r2p F3 Aviano and now I have to use it also in FR Falkenberg :sad: So, I'm not really much racing there, just try to drive around track without hitting anyone.

[The Moose]

What sort of FPS are you getting with that computer?
 
 If you drive online with less than 30 FPS in nKPro then it really screws things up on the server.  Not only will it cause you to look like you're lagging to others, but it can be the cause of other weird stuff happening that effects everyone else.

 Why this happens in nKPro and not other sims i have no idea, but it does.

Just one driver with low FPS can cause trouble for everyone on the server, so if your dropping under 30fps online with that computer then pls try everything you can to get the FPS up

 I just thought I'd mention it. :sideways:

[XLR8]

How to give away two places without any pressure, just spin and stall :frusty:
From last nights R2P F3 race at Aviano, me letting Roger and Roberto thru.

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[Katsushika Matsumoto]

Last nights race went not according to plan :sideways: Maybe my massive hangover had some part in that I don't know

In qualification I claimed P5. I was quite pleased with that, only did a few practice laps about 30mins before the R2P event. In practice/quali I was hitting the 1.25's without a problem.

At the race start I crashed into Dauti who stalled his car. I tried to evade him but my reaction was just to late :sad: I think Ron bumped into me after that which wasn't a real surprise because Dauti and I where standing still at the starting grid... :blink:

I drove my car with broken front and rear suspension all the way to the pits, i wasn't aware that it was aloud to use the towing function :blink: lost a lot of time trying to keep the car on the road that lap, But to be honest i did accidentally speeded in the pits when i drove out by a couple of km :doh:

After that I had a real hard time concentrating, my lap times where really bad, they didn't even come close to what I was doing in practice. Off course i did spun off a couple of times and in the end I was surprised that I took 6th place.

Ow and we really need blue flags I had two people that let me pass without a fight because they probably thought I was lapping them :blink:

[Doorman]

Last nights race went not according to plan :sideways: Maybe my massive hangover had some part in that I don't know

In qualification I claimed P5. I was quite pleased with that, only did a few practice laps about 30mins before the R2P event. In practice/quali I was hitting the 1.25's without a problem.

At the race start I crashed into Dauti who stalled his car. I tried to evade him but my reaction was just to late :sad: I think Ron bumped into me after that which wasn't a real surprise because Dauti and I where standing still at the starting grid... :blink:

I drove my car with broken front and rear suspension all the way to the pits, i wasn't aware that it was aloud to use the towing function :blink: lost a lot of time trying to keep the car on the road that lap, But to be honest i did accidentally speeded in the pits when i drove out by a couple of km :doh:

After that I had a real hard time concentrating, my lap times where really bad, they didn't even come close to what I was doing in practice. Off course i did spun off a couple of times and in the end I was surprised that I took 6th place.

Ow and we really need blue flags I had two people that let me pass without a fight because they probably thought I was lapping them :blink:

So it was you and Dauti I ran into the back of?  I said in a post somewhere,'thank god it wasn't full mode'
Steep learning curve eh? Driving all the way round with a broken car:lmfao: Love your attitude though.

[Doorman]

On the subject of FPS and lag/warp. I'm confused. :g: As I see it fps is an issue between you, the game and your graphics card. If your card can't handle the amount of information thrown at it, it does the best it can and that results in low fps. If you can obtain 30 fps consistently you ought to be seeing a smooth display. If you don't the only recourse is to either ante up for a new pc or pare down your demands to the bone  (i.e., lod, visible wheel, draw distance etc.
Lag and/or warp is a separate issue and one that is between you, the server and your isp. My setup is fairly robust in the pc/gpu/connection areas and I do sometimes see examples of lag, oddly enough more in LFS than nkp. You know, the one where a car in front of you disappears then reappears some way down the road. Now, is that MY lag (not receiving packets quickly enough) or their lag?(not sending packets quickly enough)

Daren't re read that, I might have been talking crap!

[Gnomie]

Doorz, my understanding is that if all the cars appear to be lagging equally bad, it's most likely your own connection that's causing the problems (too low receive throughput). Whereas if it's only one car that's bouncing around like a rabbit on LSD, the problem is at his end.

It seem slike this R2P thing is just the adrenaline shot that nKP needed! A serious, supervised format with scheduled races.

[The Moose]

Daren't re read that, I might have been talking crap!

 No you weren't talking crap  That's all very true.

...but,  it has been proved many times with nKPro, that someone with a sub 30fps screws things up.  

 It doesn't make any sense to me either, and i cant say I've seen a proper technical explanation from Kunos as to why this happens in nKPro... but it does happen, that's been proven. (at least it was proven  in v1.00 to v1.02. I'm not sure that it was ever looked at in 1.03 testing)

 I'm guessing that your processor still has to do some calculations concerning your position on the track in relation to others.  nKPro is so processor heavy(FPS is far more dependant on your CPU than GPU in nKPro) that once you drop below 30FPS the processor is doing so much work trying to keep FPS up and calculate the physics that its unable to calculate all the required information concerning other stuff.  
  When you see how bad the physics get once you drop below 30FPS it gives you a clue as to how hard your CPU is working.

 Its simply not a problem with modern CPU's, but the sim seems to fall apart on older CPU's once your under 30FPS.

I could be talking out of my arse though.  I like a good theory...even a bad theory will do me :lmfao:

[Katsushika Matsumoto]

It's gonna be a really competitive at R2P tonight, many (fast) familiar nkp rank names on the list... :blink:

[The Moose]

First thing i have to say is sorry to Katsu, even though yet again there was no contact made, the shitty collision detection decided there was.  We were having a fantastic fight when i thought he'd just hit the power too hard and spun.  The replay suggests a poor collision detection hit. (yet again i felt nothing and had no damage)  

Really sorry about it fella.

 That was a really good fun if slightly chaotic race

[Jape]

Now on, I will not accept to race from quest-computers, just from my own. I knew before I had problems with fps. But those were nothing compering that what I had yesterday. I had fps from 2 to max. 8. In prac/qual I could drive somehow with empty track, but even sitting in pits you could see lag. Sometimes you didn't see cars just sounds. On start I assume other cars were on T2 before my computer stopped diashow and I could start my own race. I managed to do couple of laps, but when I got first 5 second jam and found myself from armco after that, I decide to quit.

My last 3 races haven't had nothing to do with simracing. Since I'm not often at home, it seems I can only race then and there..hopefully still many races to come.

[Katsushika Matsumoto]

First thing i have to say is sorry to Katsu, even though yet again there was no contact made, the shitty collision detection decided there was.  We were having a fantastic fight when i thought he'd just hit the power too hard and spun.  The replay suggests a poor collision detection hit. (yet again i felt nothing and had no damage)  

Really sorry about it fella.

That was a really good fun if slightly chaotic race

Had a pretty fun race yesterday. My start was great, I passed Stuart before the little chicanes at the end of the straight, so I was in P4 I immediately had to cope with the pressure of some very fast guys right behind me. In the first lap, i could see one of the leaders (Veenstra) spun off and accidentally :sideways: entered the track again taking out the other Veenstra. Making me P2.

My lap times were really bad mainly because I was constantly checking my mirrors to hold off Stuart in almost every corner :roflmao: I could easily see where he was faster, but I thought it's a tight track... try and pass me, I can do this all day :lmfao:

But in lap seven the inevitable happened, Stuart was right behind him and touched my back right wheel that spun me off. Then I had to sit there and wait until some of the cars passed by so I could reenter the track.

@stuart : No need to apologize, after a couple of races I know how clean you race so i don't hold a grudge or whatever, just a combination of the netcode, a racing accident and bad luck

After what feel liked 30 seconds :lmfao: I tried to join the track again and then I noticed my suspension had broke so I used the towing function to go back to the pits. Fixed my car and I was underway again.

After half a lap I think the Veenstra's where coming through and I thought "I should let them pass" because I was already one lap down after going to the pits. I went off the racing line and lifted off my gas just before the last two corners before the main straight. Maybe not the best place to do it because I got rammed from behind and that spun me off again :angry: Luckily nothing was broken and I continued my way.

After that I drove a pretty consistent race, passing some people in last laps (including unlapping myself with P3 Dauti Finished P5 which isn't bad considering that i had to fix the car. Looking at the lap times of P3 (Massa) and P4 (Dauti) there where definitively possibilities for a better result, better luck next time I hope :woot2:

Sidenote : I agree that some people did not play nice, especially after the race. I've noticed that they where the same guys that where involved in most of the accidents

[Doorman]

Now on, I will not accept to race from quest-computers, just from my own. I knew before I had problems with fps. But those were nothing compering that what I had yesterday. I had fps from 2 to max. 8. In prac/qual I could drive somehow with empty track, but even sitting in pits you could see lag. Sometimes you didn't see cars just sounds. On start I assume other cars were on T2 before my computer stopped diashow and I could start my own race. I managed to do couple of laps, but when I got first 5 second jam and found myself from armco after that, I decide to quit.

My last 3 races haven't had nothing to do with simracing. Since I'm not often at home, it seems I can only race then and there..hopefully still many races to come.

Jape you sure are having a tough yime of it. When will you be getting back to your proper PC? I hate to see a man suffer like this. Hang in there mate.

[Doorman]

I enjoyed the hell out that race. I could see other cars aaaall the time! I was on the receiving end of 'inconciderate' driving and suffered one or two slight, and they only had to be slight, lapses of concentration. Apart from that, a super time was had. Poetic justice was on duty and I finished 6th in front of the Veentras! :norty:
Monaco next in F3s! :dribble:

[Katsushika Matsumoto]

Made a quick video to go with my Race2Play race report.

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