Maxim Warlock DPS

[JonnyAppleSeed]

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/buttontimers.aspx

Loads of different ones out there tho i found this one easy to set up and i stuck with it since. I placed the bars above the spells i want to track. when ya get a roll going its almost like playing guitar hero :lmfao:

[FATAL]

i find this one helps me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiGsk-P5z9E
:roflmao:

[gijs]

Very happy to see you taking the effort in improvement.
Unfort my knowledge of locks goes as far as a lvl71 alt atm wich i only use for enchanting :doh: but having read the replies of others i think you got some nice intell so im confident for the future :yahoo:
 
Cya nxt raid.....rdy the rock :boxing:
 
Regards,
Gijs

[saori]

They are all cast at the same time, that's why you can only use it with trinkets, and abilities that do not trigger a Global Cooldown.

Sweet, im going to give a try to this, thanks!

[saori]

To confirm, Saori is pretty much hit capped now with 13.65% hit (no 3% from talents) so the raid debuff and a spacegoat bring the needed hit down to 13%, 14% if you do not want to rely on being in a spacegoat group.

mmm, so then I don't have to be 17% capped in hit for raids? Im lost!
 
Ok, thing is that following the feedback so far I had made some ammendments to my talent build and gemming. Now my spec is as follows:
 
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aszune&n=Saori
 
Destruction: 3/13/55
 
Bonus damage: 2140
Bonus healing: 2140
Hit rating: 458 - 17.48%
Crit rating: 22.29%
Haste: 222
Mana regen: 354
 
So, I had lost -96 sp and gained +100 hit rating and +1 crit rating.
 
If I compare now with Vanguish, I still have +65 more spell power (unbuffed, although he has better gear and better trinkets that will potentially expand more that sp) but I'm still below in crit rating by 4.5%.
 
Any suggestion to improve crit rating?
 
About the changes above, I had only quickly tried them in ToC5 hc last night (again, no spectral kris dropped for me:sad:) and my first impression was that was good, but hard to compare the DPS with the guys in the team as I hadn't had the time to inspect their gear to compare (neither I remember the names anymore to look in armory). I guess the real test will come next raid when I can see were i'm standing aftert the last changes, but in your opinion, the above will give more DPS while in raid? our should I remove some hit rating gems now and replace them again with +sp? (as Sheepy was commenting)
 
Thanks all for the help

[saori]

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/buttontimers.aspx
 
Loads of different ones out there tho i found this one easy to set up and i stuck with it since. I placed the bars above the spells i want to track. when ya get a roll going its almost like playing guitar hero :lmfao:

Cool, will give a try to this addon today. Another thing, do you know any UI that might be lighter in loading than the standard wow UI? Looking for something clean and smoth, like the UI that appears in the post about the fight with Anub'arak (the one that the guy in the youtube video is using http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f206/55020-coliseum-anub-arak.html )

[saori]

i find this one helps me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiGsk-P5z9E
:roflmao:

He he, yeah, i should bang my head and see if it works :roflmao:

[saori]

I had tried to simulate the DPS that I can make with my new build. For this I used the DPS calculator from MaxDPS.com site (not really sure if it's a good one, if you know something better let me know) http://www.maxdps.com/warlock/destruction.php
 
With my previous build (the one at the start of this thread, calculated without raid buff to see only values of my specc)
 
Crit:26.2 %
Miss (Resist):3.4 %
 
 
Incinerate DPS:1,146.6 dps
Conflagrate DPS:662.1 dps
Chaos Bolt DPS:491.7 dps
Immolate DPS:340.2 dps
Curse of Doom DPS:200.3 dps
Total DPS old Saori:2,840.9 dps
 
With my current build the calculation (after adding the +hit gems and respecc to 3/13/55) is as follows (calculation based with now raid buff at all):
 
Crit:27.2 %
Miss (Resist):0.0 %
 
Incinerate DPS:1,181.5 dps
Conflagrate DPS:661.7 dps
Chaos Bolt DPS:498.4 dps
Immolate DPS:331.1 dps
Curse of Doom DPS:204.1 dps
Total DPS new Saori:2,876.8 dps
 
So at least (in theory) there is improvement already with 27.2 effective crit rate and 0.0 resistance! and some more DPS than with the previous build (not many, but more)
 
To compare with my point of reference (Vanguish) these are his stats generated in the same parameters (no raid buff)
 
Crit:32.0 %
Miss (Resist):0.0 %
 
Incinerate DPS:1,234.3 dps
Conflagrate DPS:668.1 dps
Chaos Bolt DPS:510.4 dps
Immolate DPS:324.7 dps
Curse of Doom DPS:202.4 dps
Total DPS Vanguish:2,940.0 dps
 
I can't wait to see how well it works now in the next raid, to have a clear idea of were i'm standing. Following this theory, im still almost 100 dps behind vanguish with a 5 points difference in crit rating, will see if it's true or not with the next raid logs.

[Fatdog]

just looked now, and way over hit cap.  spec for improved soul leech in destro, and get rid of the 3% hit chance in afflic.  this will mean you have to lifetap less for mana as well

Always use firestone, 1% direct damage buff is useful

Meta gem in head could be swapped for the 3% increase critcal damage one

and personally i want more haste, the more haste, the quicker you cast, the more damage done, aiming to get about 450 haste

rotation is fine, just practice moving the minimum amount you can to maximise dps

[saori]

Meta gem in head could be swapped for the 3% increase critcal damage one

Can you link the item of the gem you are referring too?
 
About the suppression, yeah, I just respecced to it and I was thinking on changing it again, as I run out of mana faster, indeed.
 
The firestones are always in my bag and applied to the weapon everyraid, not an issue.
 
About the haste rating, that's something that I was thinking, but how to balance haste with SP and Hit?

[Fatdog]

[item]Chaotic Skyflare Diamond[/item] chaotic skyflare diamond.

i run with just over 14% hit from items, not gemmed for it at all, with the option to add trinkets if i need the full 17%,

But in raids we normally either have a boomkin or shadow priest so dont worry about the full 17%

U got good sp and good hit, where u can, gem or pick items with haste, i found my dps coming up with the better haste i have

[Fatdog]

made any difference?

[FATAL]

ive been checking out stats n stuff you and vang have more spell power than me plus u have better gear than me in places ,yet im the one who has spent alot of time and gold wiping in naxx 10 / naxx 25 /uld 10 plus i spent alot of time in malagos 10 spent alot of gold in repairs there never did get the necklace from quest reward and dont get me started on the eye of the broodmother, so u would of thought i would have alot of good gear above item lvl 219 well i still have nine items at 219 or less yes thats NINE the people that have spent time in these 10man raids has made it easier for 25man raids and tbo you have had it easy in the way of just walking into these instances and pickking up items i ran the whole of naxx 25 with a blue weapon i didnt even get a weapon from naxx ive ran uld 10 completed and uld 25 last boss and now we are onto 10/25toc and im still running in crappy bracers from naxx my cloak is from an heroic just like my boots / ring / trinket so as for the

I think that I have a problem of gear and that I need to replace several Items

I think u just have to be patient like the rest of us, i still have nine items that are lvl 219 or lower and i rarely miss a raid or 10man and put 110% in all the time and tbo dont think ppl apreciate me much sometimes oh its dillinja he does good dps so he dont need items :crying:i dont know how much longer i can do it my forehead really hurts now i have to smash my keyboard harder and faster than ever before, ive been checking out wowhero's and most ppl have 3 or 5 items at lvl 219 or lower even you saori have less 219 items than me so buy checking the statistics i should be the lowest lock dps
but from seeing what u have done will make a big differece i see u was up with the mages the other night in dps
you are doing good m8 just be patient we all have to be

[Azunai]

I don't think Saori was really pleading for "MOAR GERE NAO!" so much as coming to the conclusion that his dps can be improved through gear, whether that be sooner or later.

You don't have to worry, your effort is appreciated quite alright m8 :>

[saori]

I think u just have to be patient like the rest of us

Honestly, i don't know what gave you the impression in this thread that im pleading for more loot, but I'm sorry if I gave you that impression. This thread is about how to improve my DPS, that's all, many people had given their hints, recomendations, experiences, etc, which I had been applying since then the best way I can, with my gold, with my continued effort doing heroics, etc.
 
If what gave you that impresion is the quote that I have a problem with gear, err, you should had looked at my profile before I opened this thread, as since then I had added 2 T9 pieces (with the badges), 3 ToC5 hc pieces (going day after day to farm for the spectral kris, which I finally got), and 1 Ring from Conquest vendor... I don't really care about loot, im of the opinion that this is a game and that sometimes you are lucky with the dice and somes you aren't so I try to avoid to get frustrated and just enjoy (and trust me that i'm of the ones that are unlucky and I don't complain, eventually gear comes one way or another)
 
Well, again, this thread is just about improvement, which i'm managing since I opened it, as I was before quite behind my class in raid, and now i'm closer (although still behind). I appreciate your input and your views, as all the others in this thread, and apologise if I made you think i was craving for more gear (if you read from the start of the thread you will see that is much more about stats, were to get hit rating, haste, crit, how to gem and priorities, etc)