get with the program

[Sneakytiger]

what i wud say is:
do recruitment via classes
i.e: have a list of what classes we need and open recruiting on those classes
e.g (tank class= recruitment open)

[Bellanie]

we do its here

http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=25229

[Améthyst]

Originally Posted by Sithvid  
RECRUIT
We must all get 1.
OTH SJ AME ROB and Arkron thats my 5.....

It could also mean gear up your new lvl 80's, older ones who have not raided for a bit, but maybe take a step backwards & bring on the next generation as a team!

[Bellanie]

if that would be the case ame, i will start applying pressure on Ezflow

NB - Is the list up to date with what we need atm?

[sheepy]

The list is now up to date from my opinion i have edited a couple of points

[Bellanie]

ok thanks sheep

[Whitey]

Originally Posted by Sithvid  
RECRUIT
We must all get 1.
OTH SJ AME ROB and Arkron thats my 5.....

It could also mean gear up your new lvl 80's, older ones who have not raided for a bit, but maybe take a step backwards & bring on the next generation as a team!

It would be nice to know how many members are in that position, wanting to raid but not having the gear.  

It's really easy to get yourself geared up to a level that can go to ICC just by doing lots of daily quests for Triumph and Frost emblems then buying the T9 sets with those.  Saying that, I'm more than happy to do ToC25 on an off night if we have enough people who want to do it.

[Bellanie]

It would be nice to know how many members are in that position, wanting to raid but not having the gear.  

It's really easy to get yourself geared up to a level that can go to ICC just by doing lots of daily quests for Triumph and Frost emblems then buying the T9 sets with those.  Saying that, I'm more than happy to do ToC25 on an off night if we have enough people who want to do it.

if this is the case then maybe it ought to be a good idea to get a post up so we can see who from the social ranks is up for raiding and what classes and the state of thier gear is.

[Fatdog]

gearing up is only half the problem, its getting used to working as part of a team that takes the practice, especially going from out-geared 5 mans to chalenging 25 mans.

Maybe face rolling ulduar would be a better start, longer instance that gives a wider range of challenges than Toc 25

my 2p worth

[Sithvid]

All good ideas  all positive Dead Men Will Walk again......

[walrob]

As one of the afore-mentioned people who may be 'recruited' I thought to add my opinion. Please remember that this is the opinion of someone who is still quite a novice and who has never raided, and some of this may echo the opinions of others who have already contributed.

The step up from questing, instances, and generally levelling seems a world away from raiding ICC. It seems an unsurmountable obsticle to get from 1.3 DPS to 5K DPS. Practice and gear will help, but how to get that?

The recruitment requirements posted by Sheep ask for T9 gear and restricts classes. I understand that it would be good for all around if uber players joined, and it is likely hat the guild would make better progress. It would be nice to be in a position where there was genuine competition for places in the guild raids rather than being short of people.

However, are we a hardcore raiding guild or a social raiding guild?

What about the social members who MAY want to raid? How about non-members who are still gearing up...could they be 'recruited'? According to Sheeps post, the class I levelled as (Boomkin) isn't required in the raids, and neither is my proposed second spec (healer). Would some of the experienced members be willing to give up their time to bring along those who are inexperienced and under-geared...some sort of 'academy'? Having said this, I have had offers of help from certain Guild members...thanks peeps.

BTW, I plan to live in Naxx for the next few months :-)

In the end this is a social game (otherwise I'd still be playing Elder Scrolls: Oblivion) and introducing new blood at a lower 'level' is a good way to make new friends.

Robert
aka Treekin and others

[sheepy]

Rob, some good questions raised - generally I think T9 is not a hard place to get to, from coming back to wow after a break i managed to get 4piece T9 in a little over a week. Just keep hitting randoms and getting badges the gear will come.

Also we would be far more likley to take someone along with a little less gear that we know rather than someone who is applying from outside the guild.

[Sithvid]

People in guild do and will help.
More Boomkins...bring it on.......

[JonnyAppleSeed]

Recruitment is always internal first .. If you can commit to the raid times then give one of the officers a poke. Gear wise it's not that hard now to get some competitive kit thrown together lots of people around to help