News - The lack of

Blunt · June 29, 2012, 12:14:58 AM

Quote from: smilodon;353826While on the subject of stupid news and to illustrate my growing despair with the BBC here's an interesting link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18618521

Specifically the caption under the picture of the new Nexus 7 tablet (me wants)

Would that be the same Google that has never made a piece of consumer hardware? The Google that is famous for outsourcing all it's products i.e Android phones. Chrome Books and Google TV's to third party hardware manufacturers like HTC, Samsung and now Asus? Although they sometimes don't disclose who makes their stuff, the Nexus Q is made by a 3rd party company but Google isn't saying who, Google don't make mass produced consumer products. They always farm the work out. So what's the thought behind the caption? None I think. Still it's hardly surprising when you consider that the BBC does make the dreadful TV show Click "yesterdays news today"

I Love Click!
It makes me remember stuff

Benny · June 29, 2012, 10:05:37 AM

Yay, faith restored. My missus had the tv am crap on this morning and they had another segment (I'm tempted to call it a skit) about the explosion.

This time the joy and relief of people as they got their pets back. Yay, they were so happy that little fluffy kitten and her sister were fine, phew! These were grown people. I'm sure they were so relieved that their cat was alive whilst next door's kid lies on a mortuary slab. ****ing A, what a result. What a bunch of syphilitic *****.

Benny · July 17, 2012, 10:58:05 PM

Yay, another rebirth.

I'm loving this.
http://www.dougstanhope.com/

TeaLeaf · July 18, 2012, 07:51:07 AM

That was a funny read and aptly described my own reaction to many so-called 'journos', which happens to rhyme with 'bozos', 'winos' and 'asshoes'. You be the judge.

Benny · July 26, 2012, 09:28:10 AM

Quick, send in the police complaints commission. Police shoot an armed man who was intent on hurting others.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-18994167

On a broader note, after the shootings in the US, there will be clamour for tighter gun controls. I've had this argument at N42 who argued it was safer to have guns than not. I still can't see it myself.

Tutonic · July 26, 2012, 12:44:59 PM

The gun ownership debate boils down to this in my mind: I don't want to live in a society where someone who is dangerously unstable can purchase an AR-15 and 6000 rounds legally.

The NRA should be footing the financially crippling medical bill for the victims. But they wont, because they're scumbags.

Niel · July 26, 2012, 07:10:03 PM

Quote from: Benny;355373Quick, send in the police complaints commission. Police shoot an armed man who was intent on hurting others.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-18994167

On a broader note, after the shootings in the US, there will be clamour for tighter gun controls. I've had this argument at N42 who argued it was safer to have guns than not. I still can't see it myself.

Not sure gun control in the US would have any effect......tis the people and not the gun that kills people and take away the gun and the nutters would find another way. There is always the strange comparison of somewhere like Canada with the US.....geographically very similar - yet places either side of the the border are very different.....US has a gun problem, Canadian side does not ( even though they also have high gun ownership ). I compare it to knife crime here........the focus is always on the weapon that does the damage rather than the person holding the weapon and the constant idea is that you take away the weapon and cure the problem......but it will always fail as the weapon was not the issue and the person is still there with the same outlooks and attitude to other people, just as dangerous but now they'll batter you over the head with a brick instead.

I'm not some pro-gun lobbyist or in favour of people walking around with swords slung..........but the real issue is not the piece of metal in whatever form, it is inside the heads of the nutters and the society that breeds them that is.

Penfold · July 26, 2012, 07:56:23 PM

Cum Catapultae Proscriptae Erunt Tum Soli Proscripti Catapultas Habebunt

When catapults are outlawed, only the outlaws with have catapults

'nuff said

T-Bag · July 26, 2012, 11:25:16 PM

Blaming people is not an excuse for allowing guns. What positive use comes from hand guns? I'm ok with shotguns which are relatively easily obtainable in this country. They're relatively non-lethal and hard to conceal. My family own a couple for clay pigeon shooting and hunting rabbits on a local friendly farmers land, I've been to rifle clubs and have shot rifles under controlled circumstances, so what I'm about to say is not just blindly anti-gun, I'm coming at this from a position of giving things a chance.

I think the line of thought that more guns around makes people safer as criminals will be too scared it's just ridiculous. It's like taking away seatbelts and hoping it will make people drive more carefully. Criminals will still carry guns only when there's a crime so "heroic" citizen might shoot a bystander or get shot for drawing a gun. It's a non-sense argument spread by idiots. I'd rather face a brick than a bullet and I'd rather face a fist than a knife. If weapons are off the streets I'd be happier and that will never happen when people are legally allowed to conceal and carry them around with them for s**ts and giggles.

If you want a gun for hunting it's a rifle or a shotgun you need anyway. Hand guns should be illegal.

Blunt · July 27, 2012, 01:42:13 AM

I've had a couple of shotguns for 30 years or more.
Since Dunblane, Every 5 years or so I have to re-new my licence, get a visit from Plod to check my gun security and pay a fair wedge for the privilege. (even though the Dunblane shootings weren't done with shotguns)
At any time I could go bonkers and shoot up the village. No-one checks my mental state in any depth.
The check involves a retired copper coming round for a cuppa and a chat about shoots we've been members of, and the number of pigeons that are about.
It suits me fine, but what about the nutters?
Generally I'm happy to be checked out, because I am not a nutter and have a reason to possess my guns. (I can shoot rabbits, pigeons etc. on my local farmland)

Most of the shootings that occur in this country are committed with un-licenced firearms. so should not be my problem.
In the US you can legally own an AK47 or an Uzi.
This is where their problem lies.
Why on earth would you want to possess an assault rifle? (apart from the initial fun you'd get firing off at cans etc.)
There may be a perfectly valid reason to own one, it's just I haven't heard it yet.

T-Bag · July 27, 2012, 11:01:29 AM

This wiki quote says it all

QuoteIn the United Kingdom in 2009 there were 0.07 recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000 inhabitants; for comparison, the figure for the United States was 3.0, about 40 times higher, and for Germany 0.2.[2]

Or the table or all firearm related deaths HERE shows USA: 10.27, Canada 4.78, England/Wales 0.46 (Deaths per 100,000)

Canada may have less deaths than America which has similar access to guns, but it still has 10x more deaths than the UK with tighter laws.

DrunkenZombiee · July 27, 2012, 11:30:57 AM

Just to mix it up a bit..

You need a permit to buy and own a gun in the UK. You don't need a permit to own a hunting crossbow or any other lethal weapon which can be sold to the over 18's no question asked.

Personally I think this is a no brainer, farmers need a shotgun and or a .22 rifle as their livelihood depends on it. Should they be audited on a regular basis... Yes... Should they have to undergo mental health checks... In my opinion... Yes.

The trouble is that guns are not the only tools that can be used as weapons. I would argue that you could do as much damage with a car around town.

Jamin · July 27, 2012, 03:57:54 PM

How come nobody pulled out their own gun and shot him?

*coughs* thread drift, it'd be a shame if this topic just became about gun law as I also don't bother with the news media these days, the missus and me call our local Granada news the dead baby show as they always try to headline with a dead baby story.

Benny · August 29, 2013, 08:18:49 PM

I love the news

http://www.theonion.com/articles/let-me-explain-why-miley-cyrus-vma-performance-was,33632/?ref=auto

This has restored my faith in humans.

T-Bag · August 30, 2013, 08:18:14 AM

Quote from: Benny;374895I love the news

http://www.theonion.com/articles/let-me-explain-why-miley-cyrus-vma-performance-was,33632/?ref=auto

This has restored my faith in humans.

It's so very true. When I see a slideshow on a website I know it's just to increase their page views. I deliberately avoid them. If I were less lazy I'd set up some sort of block on sites that tuck all their 'content' behind slideshows and social media login so I don't help their figures in any way.