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JonnyAppleSeed

June 24, 2010, 05:43:49 PM
As we know tirk could not get in our 10 man groups so he teamed up with a guild working on 10 mans

With the low attendance I asked him to see if any would be interested in joining our 25 man. It seems some are and he's trying to get them available tonight. Usual problems will apply spots and loot..  lets hope we can get a few keepers
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TeaLeaf

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June 25, 2010, 08:19:16 AM
Good idea.  A bunch of them are from the same guild so it is worth having the chat.
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Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

JonnyAppleSeed

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June 27, 2010, 11:03:03 PM
Ok had a word with them today on ts .... They are happy to fill a few spots tho they can't commit to the same members being about each raid tho ill get a list of names and add to the calendar invites ... The only concern they have is the dkp system and after talking to them they have some valid concerns of actually ever getting loot . So im wondering if we can think of a better way to give them a fair deal. maybe allow the minus dkp or boost the initial 7, even remove the decay dunno what do you guys think
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Limps

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June 28, 2010, 06:00:27 PM
I say give them 100 dkp after 6-10 raids if they are committed then they can start spend.

TeaLeaf

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June 29, 2010, 10:43:26 AM
How much stuff do you DE each run in 25?
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Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Whitey

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June 29, 2010, 10:52:44 AM
On a fresh run we probably DE between 2 and 5 items.  

I'm totally against giving people free DKP, they should earn it. I also think EVERYONE should be on the decay (it will automatically be decayed each night and someone would need to manually add it back in for the exceptions).  The only way we should "give" DKP is in a situation like OVO where they are joining DMR on mass and have a similar system running to ours.

If they want to raid in 25 mans then it's great to have them with us and they will soon EARN the DKP in the same way we do. Giving away DKP is wrong and takes away the value of DKP from the raiders who turn up every raid and could lose loot to someone in their first raid with us.  I'd rather stop the 25 man runs until be get enough DMR members than give out DKP for nothing.

TeaLeaf

#6
June 29, 2010, 10:58:04 AM
Well, that was where I was heading with my DKP comment.  There are already 2-5 items per run which are in essence 'going free', so I'd be tempted to do exactly as Whitey said, let them earn DKP & spend it where they can.  If the raid happens each week the number of items going to DE ramps up very quickly and there they will be able to buy a lot with very little DKP.
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Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

JonnyAppleSeed

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June 29, 2010, 05:47:00 PM
Yeh im along the same lines earn ya dkp. I just don't think they will go for it tbh so just brainstorming to think of a way to sweeten the pot if we need to bring in mercs
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