Question about raiding and locking to guild.

Deminion · August 06, 2010, 11:32:19 PM

I have for some time now had thoughts about what to do about icc25, as it is now locked to guild-only runs. But as we now don't seem to have a sufficient raidforce, i'm asking if it will be released, untill we have enough ppl again?

JonnyAppleSeed · August 07, 2010, 11:52:55 AM

Still thinking about the best way forward with this.. As we are at LK in 25 im tempted to keep it saved till we kill him. The problem we have got is getting enough on to have a solid shot at it. So i would like to keep the 25 man locked tho we may need to reduce the number of 25 man raid days in an attempt to focus the time we have players available. If we can't get enough for 25 our prio is a very strong 10 man to also fiddle with LK and if possible 2x10 tho that also causes problems. Anyways we will bang our heads together and try to come up with something for the next lock out. All opinions are welcome so everyone feel free to give a bit of input on how you would move the guild forward

Deminion · August 07, 2010, 11:57:56 AM

the thing is, as i'm still scrambling emblems for my dps kit, i would like to be able to actually get some out of the 25-mans, while we are working on LK in 10's

Jewelz^ · August 07, 2010, 12:18:16 PM

For the record i am not available Thursday nights.. Also, i would also like to improve my gear through 25 mans.. i am currently guild saved in 10 and 25 mans at LK so not much i can do to get emblems and such.

Lynx/Holes//Jewelz ^^

lunares · August 07, 2010, 11:57:26 PM

Personally i think the 25 mans should remain locked, but i am not sure if you should keep it saved to the LK. I think keep it saved for a few weeks to get some tries in then reset and get badges and stuff. Also now that OVO left that means a few ppl need to be replaced and a reset will give the opportunity to learn to work together as a team and to see how it all goes.
Let the LK be 10 man for now so all persons know the 10 man tactics and after that focus on the 25 man LK again.

Lunares

Sithvid · August 08, 2010, 12:39:18 AM

I agree with Luna get more marks of sanc, and build the team back up

Limps · August 08, 2010, 11:01:31 AM

I must say i agree with Jas but also see the problem in us not doing 25 mans. I suggest keep it locked for now and try to bring in some new ranged dps as we need them for 25 man give it a month as it really make no sense to start with a fresh icc 25 man run at this time so close to cata. I would say either stay at LK for a period of time or dont go at all. remember guys if we have enough for ICC 25 man reset run there should be enough to the LK fight in 25 man, so tbh if the raid suddenly are full when we reset to fresh run, something is deffently wrong if that can happend. so in my view go recruit the last 4 ppl for our raid group and lets kill the ******* as soon as possible. BUT it will require hard work from officers to reqruit new ppl and maybe also in new ways as we have a deadline for next expansion.
NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO SIT IDDLE BY AND HOPE PPL WILL JOIN THE GUILD WE NEED NEW PPL NOW AND FAST IF THIS SHOULD BE POSSIBLE!!!

eninodrib · August 09, 2010, 09:55:25 AM

Hey guys

Long time listener, first time caller

From a Newbies point of view i can totally see why the guild is focused on killing the LK in 25 man and i would be more than happy to try and help achieve this, but i do see were Luna is coming from. I am not by any means a follower of the dreaded 'GS' however i do appreciate that there is still quite a bit of better gear out there for me in ICC 25. Please dont think i am trying to write this for personal gain, the point i was trying to make is that if there are other Newbies to the guild such as me, then if we were to grow as a team and get stronger with tacts and drops it may be beneficial in the long run.

Just a thought.

P.S. dont be too harsh....its my first proper post

TeaLeaf · August 09, 2010, 10:19:53 AM

Just so folks know this thread is not being ignored, this topic is the subject of discussion by Council at the moment. Balancing the requirements of all can be tricky, but O see both sides of the argument.

Jewelz^ · August 09, 2010, 12:21:50 PM

The question is, Can we get the LK down with the current gear and people?

JonnyAppleSeed · August 09, 2010, 05:15:26 PM

QuoteThe question is, Can we get the LK down with the current gear and people?

Thats not a big problem we have the gear and the skillz ... the problem I see is getting the people on at the same time to raid. With the turn outs at the moment if we lose the lockout we could be already into cata before we get another chance to kill him.

Sinap · August 10, 2010, 02:43:25 PM

Quote from: Limps;314620as it really make no sense to start with a fresh icc 25 man run at this time so close to cata.

I wouldn't have said this was so close to Cata personally? Surely a full clear of ICC is possible in a few nights of raiding?

Anyway, i'm happy to sit there and wipe all night/week trying to get the LK down, I have no problem with this at all as people from the MC days will remember, however because of the loss of the Ovo bunch and gain of the newer raid members such as myself, as Luna says it would be useful to start fresh to get everyone on the same wavelength, give people a chance to work together properly and grab a few upgrades along the way which will ultimately help with killing the LK.

Whitey · August 10, 2010, 03:12:42 PM

The officers had a chat last night and if we get 25 people signed up for the raid on Thursday, we will be starting a fresh run.

One of the officers will be playing on another character to keep the LK Instance saved for another week. So in answer to the question at the top of this thread, 25 man ICC is still locked. This will be reviewed again at the end of the week.