Motorola Xoom

Started by TeaLeaf, March 29, 2011, 08:30:33 AM

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albert

The Toshiba Tablet is the one I want to see.
http://www.thetoshibatablet.com/pdf/Toshiba%20PDF_V2.pdf

32GB on board with Micro SD additional 32GB.
Full USB 2 port.
LP-DDR2 RAM less power consumption

Not sure it will have 3G and it's a weighty 700g+, video rec/ play is only 720p but if it will work at 64GB and take an external HDD or USB Mouse then I'll be happy.

Scary how similar that is to the ASUS, the spec is line by line listed the same so I suspect they may be the same base system. £429 for the ASUS with the keyboard, out 1st June.
Cheers, Bert

albert

I tried this one out in PC World, and although I'd not think of buying an Acer desktop, this tablet was the nicest to use and most responsive so far for me:

http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=536874

(Acer site is crap for spec.)

Has 3G, 32GB onboard plus up to 32GB Micor SD, USB 2.0 and USB Micro ports with support coming for keyboard or mouse. 1GB RAM rumoured that DDR3 is a possibility, usual Tegra dual core and nVidia chipset.

Coming in at over £500 for the top shelf model but sure to come down a few months after launch at the end of this month.
Cheers, Bert

TeaLeaf

Pen asked me last night 'why not  Xoom'.  Here's a quote from a review on Amazon:

QuoteUPDATE 29/04: Motorola released a firmware update but it doesn't address any of the serious issues. You still cannot use the SD card slot, the browser is still slow and crashes and (while not necessary Xoom fault) sites still often show you a mobile phone sized version on the otherwise large and gorgeous screen. Hopefully another update will address those issues soon.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

albert

My job was put at risk a few weeks ago and as per the required proceedure, retail therapy was necessary.

So I took out a 24 month 3 data contract and got a Xoom for 124.80 after Carphone Warehouse price matched PC Worlds deal.

There's a free Motorola Keyboard and mouse offer on this month so made it even better value.

I must say, despite the software release issue Motorola have had, the device is amazing. Very well made, fast, and the customisation possibilities are superb.

I have a working rooted Android 3.2 ROM on there and the 1GHz ARM dula core CPU is overclocked to 1.5GHz and totally stable.

I'm in love with the Xoom.

Just don't get their silicone cover. The charging dock, doesn't come with an actual PSU, just the dock which is crazy.

I still used my other OEM tab as it's a great sandbox for experimenting but the Xoom is very good indeed.
Cheers, Bert

TeaLeaf

Have they updated to get their SD card slot working yet?
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

albert

#20
From 3.1 stock ROM the SD slot has been working.

The only problem is 3.1 has not reached anywhere but the US and Australia yet and 3.2 is only out on wifi in the US only.

But there is so much interest in the Xoom there is a 100% working 3.2 3G Custom ROM and it has full SD, Host USB, Overclocking, Bluetooth peripheral,s the whole 9 yrds. I use that and it`s working great with CWM and you keep your system state after upgrading the ROM.

I probably won't even upgade to stock 3.1 when it comes out next month in the UK as the custom ROM options are superb.

Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
Cheers, Bert

TeaLeaf

#21
Quote from: albert;329578So I took out a 24 month 3 data contract and got a Xoom for 124.80 after Carphone Warehouse price matched PC Worlds deal.

There's a free Motorola Keyboard and mouse offer on this month so made it even better value.
This bit I missed - Which data contract?  Was trying to run some numbers on this and I can't see one that looks red hot.  I see the Carphone Warehouse deal, but the cheapest data contract with the tablet at that price was not with 3 - or am I not finding the PC World deal to price match?  Could you link both do you think please?  I'm with 3, so I'm interested.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

albert

I went into PC World and they had the tab for £124.99 on a 5GB a month 3 contract for 24 months at £26.20 per month.

Car Phone Warehouse only had a £300+  for the tab with £26.20 for 5GB on TalkMobile (Vodafone) and that network sucks on my train journey and in my house I barely get a voice signal.

So I asked CPW to match the tab price but showing them a photo of the price tab from PCW and because 3 do not sell the Xoom CPW were happy to price match.

You can't do this online, it involved a bit if negotiation.

Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
Cheers, Bert

T-Bag

Quote from: albert;329875I went into PC World and they had the tab for £124.99 on a 5GB a month 3 contract for 24 months at £26.20 per month.

Car Phone Warehouse only had a £300+  for the tab with £26.20 for 5GB on TalkMobile (Vodafone) and that network sucks on my train journey and in my house I barely get a voice signal.

So I asked CPW to match the tab price but showing them a photo of the price tab from PCW and because 3 do not sell the Xoom CPW were happy to price match.

These prices aren't exactly mind blowing, £754 over the 2 years. Or to put it another way, if you bought the tablet then the monthly subscription would be £15.99 for 5GB from Three, which means you're getting the tablet for around £370, only saving about £100 on the full price. When I got my HTC Incredble S on a £25/month contract they knocked of £370 from their sim free price so it cost me £10, but that £25 was also getting me 300mins of calls and unlimited texts and internet* (* Throttled back if I exceed 3GB a month). They just don't seem to be anything like competitive on tablets yet, I'm still waiting.

I won't use 5GB a month of data on a cellular network this month I've used less than 200mb on my phone, most has been on wifi. They do a PAYG deal, 12GB lasts 12 months for £51 that I'd be more tempted by, or setting my phone up as an ad hoc wifi portal and using my unlimited data on there. Data prices are only going to fall over the next 2 years so there are advantages to not being locked into a contract.
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TeaLeaf

My thoughts are probably to buy the tablet outright, then tether it to a mobile. 3's One plan should do which is £35pm if I also upgrade the phone at the same time, less if I keep my Hero.

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TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

albert

Cheers, Bert

TeaLeaf

Quote from: albert;329887This is the ROM I use on my Xoom TL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146153
It's not entirely clear, but is that ROM for a WiFi or a 3G version?  I got confused when reading about it.
QuoteThis is a completely deodexed rom, based on the 3.2 wifi system image. However just because Google and Motorola haven't released 3.2 for the verizon xoom that doesn't mean we don't support it! Thats right. We support 3g devices on 3.2 before Google have even released it.
....so is this ok to flash to a WiFi Xoom?
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

TeaLeaf

TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

albert

Yep, installed it today after taking a TitaniumBackup and nandroid backup on CWM and it installed perfectly. Backup recovered I'd say 90%+ Lovin' it!
Cheers, Bert

albert

#29
Quote from: TeaLeaf;330339It's not entirely clear, but is that ROM for a WiFi or a 3G version?  I got confused when reading about it.

....so is this ok to flash to a WiFi Xoom?

Ok the deal is this 3.2 release is for WiFi but Team Tiamat took that and added the Locale files, Build.Prop and 3G files for the US. Then you copy onto that ROM once installed your 5 3G files if you had 3.0.1 installed. (Or you find a forum that has them).

With 2.1 that you spotted justu came out, 3G EURO worked right off the bat, no problems at all.

Plus 3.2 is now out for the US 3G devices so there may be a 2.1.1 with optimisations.

It's very well supported.

So this ROM is actually the WiFi US ROM enhanced, rooted etc.

Today I installed 2.1 after taking a TitaniumBackup (from inside Android) and nandroid  backup whilst booted into recovery Clockworkmod v3.4.0.0 r4 which is optimised for Xoom and it installed perfectly. Backup recovered I'd say 90%+  Lovin' it!                   

To get your Xoom ready to use Tiamat:

1) Unlock the file system
2) Root Android
3) Install CWM and boot into it an take a full back (must have ext SD in place)
4) Wipe cache/ factory reset in CWM
5) Install Tiamat 2.1 from CWM

Take 30 mins max.

Ok it took days of forum trawling and nail biting but once CWM is installed you can always recover. :D
Cheers, Bert