Ultraxion - DEFEATED 01/12/11

pÃ¤lsboll · December 29, 2011, 03:00:58 PM

can for ex lag or a framerate that jumps up and down have anything to do with that the clicking at buff donÂ´t work?
I clicked in time, no problem to see any timers.. sometimes it worked like a charm the next time not

Azunai · December 29, 2011, 03:06:16 PM

There's always a 5-second window in which you can press the button, so unless your lag is 5+ seconds (sounds like a pretty unplayable situation anyway) then no, it shouldn't play a part.

pÃ¤lsboll · December 29, 2011, 06:58:47 PM

I did and the button started the timer on it but nothing happend.. I still died.... but sometimes things donÂ´t work as they should, not an bad excuse from my side Im more into know if someone else get this "strange" things. and what to do to solve it

Arcticfire · December 29, 2011, 09:29:14 PM

Did you bind it or did you press the button that shows up??

pÃ¤lsboll · December 30, 2011, 08:05:33 AM

Quote from: Arcticfire;341048Did you bind it or did you press the button that shows up??

I did try both ways. still the same problem. but Im stubborn gonna try to solve it until next time.. btw on LFR I nvr had that problem

Azunai · December 30, 2011, 10:25:30 AM

Didn't happen to press it too early? It doesn't matter on Hour of Twlight as that one's cast is always as long as the duration of the button spell. But Fading Light has a random duration and may last longer than it. If it lasts 9 seconds and you press it right away, you end up being back in Twlight Realm before Fading Light expires and you die.

TeaLeaf · December 30, 2011, 01:29:22 PM

Quote from: pÃ¤lsboll;341060btw on LFR I nvr had that problem

On LFR it does not kill you, so you're unlikely to notice if it goes wrong.

Treach · January 01, 2012, 01:07:44 PM

Quote from: Azunai;340990I'll fraps our next Ultraxion kill to show just how much of a non-issue Hour of Twilight / Fading Light becomes with WeakAura's. It basically means that all a DPS has to do in this fight is just that: DPS. No movement or anything. Just stand still and DPS. Oh, and press that one button at the moment it is indicated so overly obvious it's completely impossible to miss it.

If your healers can keep you alive and if your tanks can rotate who is in and out of each HoT, you only have to make the DPS curve and it's a kill.

I've been having major issues with Weak Aruas, no warnings appear. Going to give it another go.

As for tank rotation, I worked out an easy way to keep the tanks swaping, the tank that hides from the blast taunts when he comes out. As the 1st tank to get Faded Light is the one to take the hit thanks to it's 0 aggro debuff I think it's the safest time for tanks to swap.

pÃ¤lsboll · January 03, 2012, 09:07:36 AM

last night the "purple button" worked like a charm.. both on keybind and press it. Still having some issues with my abilitys on and off but over all WoW seems to "feel" better now

Switchback · January 03, 2012, 02:02:58 PM

Sigh 4% wipe.....Had a new tonk in and ur rotations were great sharp and dre....

Dps after a few issues managed to click the love button correctly....

So we asked where can we get that extra dps from?....so people said the were undergeared blah blah....not true the only person who was slighty UG'd was drea...

Ive found the problem for now i believe....PRE-POTTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So many times we have been told to do this when Tl and Jas have given us help over TS....Last night drea said about it....and i said on ts and in raid chat countless times to do it and if u needed pots to trade me....only sithy did...

Ive looked through world of logs and guess what on that 4% wipe 3 people used pots.....Sharpfang,Pals and Nims.....They used 1 each so,ur halfway there!

Sithy,Hanne and Hermi used none.....

1200 int for 25secs is a massive dps boost....espesh if u use it twice! Every fight bar 1 or 2 Drea would say PRE POT! over TS yet none would from the looks of it.

Yes we will prob get him down on weds as a few upgrades will be had from valor and lfr and the 4 bosses b4 this 1....BUT some need to pull their fingers out.

Sorry as its a moan but it is so frustrating for all of us that we spend 4 nights on 1 boss, when it could be quite easily solved....

ALL must bring their own flasks pots and food to raids! its a general rule....we are lucky to have a great guild that can supply it all but u should all have spares...as we fannied around last night when people hadnt taken the cauldren like drea had said in the begining...

So rant over,just remember bring pots,flasks,food and ur ears!

Arcticfire · January 03, 2012, 02:12:19 PM

Yeah had to tank yesterday, after a few whipes because of me I think I didnt do so bad

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Since those cauldrons are Soulbound and 1 tank didnt show up yesterday I had to place the cauldrons and then jump over to my druid. Hence why I placed them both at the start and actually said it in TS.
Use 1 from the start and then 1 halfway...thats 4H so should cover the 3H were raiding perfectly.

Im quite shocked about what Switch found out, basicly everytime I said 6-5-4-3-prepot-go and yet 3 ppl did it and 1 of them is a tank. Where are the other 3?
If you dont have those pots, ask ask ask. Dont just ignore it caus youre taking down the rest with it but ask! Use TS and ask for it, people even said trade me for a pot. Yet barely anyone did it.
I expect a reply from those that didnt pot, atleast.

JonnyAppleSeed · January 03, 2012, 06:23:54 PM

I agree with the double pot (its a need on most fights as you gear up) its make or break on this one. Looking at numbers we have too much difference between top and bottom dps. 28-18k throws up a warning to me that people are missing something regarding output. Ill give an example that may / may not give you somthing to think about. The 6 min fight you hit the enrage. Hero was was hit at 25%. Now the scary bit *no major dps boost can be seen from half of the dps team*.

Im not having a pop so dont take this the wrong way im just trying to understand why and point out we must have some untapped potential not being used ...

This fight as dps is little more than a target dummy with 1 extra button to push..

He will fall over on wed

Nimsraedian · January 03, 2012, 08:57:01 PM

Quote from: Switchback;341263Ive looked through world of logs and guess what on that 4% wipe 3 people used pots.....Sharpfang,Pals and Nims.....They used 1 each so,ur halfway there!

I have no idea why the logs say i've only used 1 pot on our good attempts, but i actually did use a second pot every time we hit heroism. I'm 100% sure about that

For the rest of yesterdays raid. I think everyone finally understood what they had to do. All we need to do now is get our dps at a decent amount and i'm sure we'll get him down next time!

TeaLeaf · January 03, 2012, 09:40:29 PM

Remember pre-pots don't usually show in the logs as you're not in combat so they generally do not get recorded.

Arcticfire · January 03, 2012, 10:18:59 PM

Thats what I was thinking about aswell, because your not in combat when you use the first pot it probably wont show up, however the 2nd pot should so we are still missing on that.