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[JanuZ]

The problem is that the rules for football are idiotic and cause alot of problems( I also maintain that this is the reason football is so popular since there is nothing a human being likes more then argue). The rule I am mentioning here specifically is that the clock is not stopped for delays, like every other team sport that features a clock. This makes it hard to decide how a video-review should be conducted since the play can't continue while the review is ongoing. Also the board of FIFA for some reason see the rules as something that has to be kept as close to the original as possible for some reason( except for the hand-ball rule, that can have a new paragraph every year apparantly ).

[Benny]

So, the theory is that if you bring in goal line technology it is the start of a slippery slope. In this instance if you had ruled for the goal there would have been uproar about the offside, so you then need video refs for the offsides. This begins to breaks up the flow.
If you say that we need technology for those match changing decisions (goal line and perhaps offsides) how far back do you then go? That throw in that led to the cross and goal, surely it's important you get that right. And the foul that led to the free kick. We don't want NFL, we do want consistency. The reason for the clamour is all money, there is so much at stake (promotion, relegation, tv rights, cups, sponsorship) that getting every little fact right is becoming financially important. Football will become stifled and yes we all moan about the wrong decisions, but Drazila is right, I want opinionated arguments and discussions, irrational defence of events purely because you're a Man U fan and I'm not. That is what it's about. We could all referee better than that guy in the middle, unti lit comes to it!

Isn't this all about the great fact that football is fallible and therefore creates discussion. Yes, we've been done on numerous occasions with dodgy decisions, but could we not focus on cheating. If post match it is established you dived/spat/headbutted, immediate 5 match ban. Job done.

As for the what if goals? I genuinely don't care


As for England on Sunday, I think we have a good chance. Rooney was in the right places at the right times, but looked a bit rusty, it will come. The side we have is solid, we have no less chance than anyone else to well here. Despite all the nay sayers, I think Parker has been immense and been the reason Gerrard can shine. Milner delivers, solid and consistent. Attacking wise we've rarely had the strength and variation. Rooney, Defoe, Wellbeck, Oxlade, Walcott and Carroll all bring something different. Jump on the England bandwagon, the view is great even if we all know there's a ditch full of cow sh** up ahead.

[Switchback]

Should be a good game tonight.

I do think goal line tech would be good but as you say Benny,how far would you have to take it back too?! Plus it does give us all those "what ifs" and "do you remember" in the pub which what makes this game great.

We do have a good team,they seemed quite tired the other night and tend to sit back which is annoying but hai we are used to it

I think we will get to the semi's and all of a sudden every1 will come out of the woodwork to support England and then as you put it....theres a ditch full of cow sh*t up ahead :roflmao:

[Tutonic]

It really is quite simple, and Cricket/Rugby/EVERY OTHER SPORT seem to handle these things so much better than Football does.

If a 'contentious' goal is scored, the defending side is allowed to request a TMO (Television Match Official) review. The TMO is allowed to check 1) Was there an offside in the buildup to the goal, and 2) Was the ball over the line.

This would take no more than two minutes, and wouldn't effect the 'flow' of the game (as play has already stopped).

If a goal isn't given but the attacking side thinks it went over the line (or an offside decision was incorrect), they're also allowed to request a TMO review when the ball next goes out of play.

The referee is still in charge of the game, as fouls etc are still under his jurisdiction (no TMO reviews should ever be allowed for anything that is subjective).

There should also be a system where players can be cited after a match for simulation/diving. It makes Football looks ridiculous, and it should be stamped out from the game ASAP.

There you go, I've just fixed Football. You're welcome.

My prediction for tonight: Portugal 3 - 2 Czech Republic.

[Sithvid]

Nice thread so far . What better can u get than a team you can't stand lets just say Birmingham city at random. Playing the opposition off the pitch then in the last minute someone dives, get a highly dubious penalty and they lose. The fact that sometimes the best team loses or players get away with stuff adds to the fun IMO it's sport/entertainment. Good and bad stuff happens sith happens

[Benny]

So what happens when you find out afterward that the goal you just awarded after a review stems from a freekick that shouldn't have been given in the first place. Where do you draw the line? One touch before the goal, one passage of play, to the previous dead ball?

/contentious

Portugal 1-0 Czech Land - after extra time

[smilodon]

It's not going to work exactly the same but in American Football each team gets three time outs, which are pretty crucial to use wisely. They can win or loose games. If a team wants a video replay for any event they can 'spend' a time out on it. This prevents a team from questioning every call made against them. they have to think carefully as a time out is a precious commodity. Now UK football doesn't have time outs so it's not going to work the same but it's conceivable that video playback could be demanded for goals, penalties and red card offences. What is harder to decide is what to substitute the time out with?

[Benny]

Call me intramuscular. (Well, I typed Nostradamus mut the spell checked version is cooler, so now I'm intramuscular)

Anyway, on the technology thing, the hesitation is anything that can't be replicated at grass roots is frowned upon. That's the beauty of it, football with jumpers for goal posts is the same as playing at Wembley...

[Tutonic]

So what happens when you find out afterward that the goal you just awarded after a review stems from a freekick that shouldn't have been given in the first place. Where do you draw the line? One touch before the goal, one passage of play, to the previous dead ball?

/contentious

Portugal 1-0 Czech Land - after extra time

The free kick is outside the remit of the TMO, so it can't be considered. You limit it to offside calls (but only where a goal is scored/disallowed) and goal-line calls.

[JanuZ]

The standard is that only certain decisions are reviewable. For example you can review the spot of where a play finished in NFL, it doesn't matter if someone grabbed the face mask on that play or not since that isn't reviewable. Another example is that in the NBA you can only review if a play is flagrant or not, if the review shows that it shouldn't have been a foul at all, tough luck it is already called a foul. If video-review comes to football I am expecting that only 2 things will be reviewable, offside and if the ball was over the line or not. It doesn't matter if someone fouled or handballed before that, it wouldn't be reviewable. It might also be a very minor possibility that the referees will be able to review if it should be a yellow or red card.

[TeaLeaf]

The problem unfortunately is Blatter.  Looking at his record of mismanagement, corruption, faux pas and straight forward ignorance I'm surprised both he and the governing body are still in existence.

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[Gone_Away]

The free kick is outside the remit of the TMO, so it can't be considered. You limit it to offside calls (but only where a goal is scored/disallowed) and goal-line calls.

I think it should be for goals only. If you impede the ref's outside of that then it destroys the flow of the game. It should only be when the ref can't see it properly for whatever reason. Otherwise you might as well send the ref's home and fill the pitch with cameras to capture the play from all angles..

[Benny]

For once, my Mighty Duck friend, I agree with you. Cold hard line in the sand. Goal or not. All other failings are there to make the sport fun

Anyway, roll on Sunday when England win and I take the title for 'Best and most engaging thread started in a long time, measured on response length and content'

Ben "dMw Post King" ninio

[BrotherTobious]

So glad you are keeping you feet on the ground mate,

[Gortex]

Someone shared this at work and feel this is the best place to post it.

Made me laugh quite a bit and sooooo true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_K_FH9qUxw