Garalon - DEFEATED 25/11/12

Started by TeaLeaf, September 07, 2012, 12:43:31 PM

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TeaLeaf

Nope he's getting confused.  We're talking about having Hal go ret if dps is a little tight as a plate wearer can soak reasonably effectively in dps gear.   I strongly doubt he had thought through the 'dps from in front' bit! :P
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Slush

Quote from: TeaLeaf;362100I strongly doubt he had thought through the 'dps from in front' bit! :P

Why not? Need to stay in "soaking area" when the strike hits (unless we dont have a timer for this), rest of the time stay in "weakened spot area".


Guru; Please elaborate your point of view. And yes, I was talking about you :-)


If im missing something here, I am probably not the only raid member that is. So clarifying is always helpful.

TeaLeaf

Lost dps.  Major.  If we single tank then we have better people than Guru to be in front soaking.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Slush

Quote from: TeaLeaf;362120Lost dps.  Major.  If we single tank then we have better people than Guru to be in front soaking.

I do understand that Hal going retri is a better option, as is why I suggested it. (+30-40k dps, maybe even more).

On the other hand; Lets say Guru loose 35k on the soaking, and we have another ranged in instead of the tank it will still be a dps win.
Example, theoretically: -20k (from hal) -35k (from guru) + 75k (from ranged dps) = +20k dps

This is logs just taken out of the blue from a guild who met enrage, with a warr soaking:
Warr damage taken:
  http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/7et6m4o6vrcpgems/sum/damageTaken/?s=13274&e=13701

Warr damage done (yes, cleaves):
  http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/7et6m4o6vrcpgems/analyze/dd/target/?source=58&s=13274&e=13701


Aand.... Guru being an exceptional warrior and.. I think he will do even better than this example-warrior-soaker. This is also why I suggest it. :-D

TeaLeaf

Think you're over-estimating gain from dps and the loss from the plate soaker.    We're close enough to not need big changes, we just need to tweak it imo.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

TeaLeaf

Killed tonight.

2 tanks, 3 healers, 5 dps.
Pheromone rotation was 2 tanks + 2 healers
Initial DPS burn to get 3 legs down (front left, back right, back left), then ALL on body bar Guru (legs) and Midd's DOTs (legs).

Kill was about 30 sec ahead of enrage.  Good job all :thumbsup:
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Sithvid

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TeaLeaf

Someone needs to show you the PrtScn button on your keyboard Sithy! It takes much better pictures than your phone! :roflmao:

Gratz RGW though, well done!
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Sithvid

Hehe idd I thought someone would notice.  2 new kills for me last night 😁 was a great fun
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