Thok the Bloodthirsty - DEFEATED 22/10/13

[Ziley]

I'll update my previous post with Zolena's cds instead.

Does that specific amount of cds for each p1 look good to you, though? Maybe we stack up as 1 group on 15 stacks (at 1. p1) and then just continue healing and letting the cd-chain finish so we'll transistion once we can no longer keep up, rather than just choosing to stop healing.

In terms of dps, I think it's very much an individual thing where we have to look at tips for the fight and tips in general for our class so that we can all do some more dps, since I believe this is not the first time our rather low raid dps has been an issue (and obviously some will be lower than others due to class strength and RNG on loot). Furthermore, it's important that all ranged focus on the boss at all times during the kite phase, since 2 tanks and 2 melee is plenty to kill the jailor.

Healers also need to make sure, as I believe Jas was saying last raid, that they use all of their mana in p1 to make it as long as possible and then regen on the kite phase. Remember to remove the jailors enrage (I think druids and hunters can do that, right?) to significantly lower tank damage.

[TeaLeaf]

I think the list we ran was slightly too long, we ended up wasting a couple of CDs when we should have stopped and transitioned into P2.     The other change which we are considering is moving devo to the end of the period when healing requirements are at their hardest.    So it would be easier to kick off with HoPs and individual CDs, then transition into Devos at the end.   Something like:

1P1 & 3P1
.....wait then
10 sec Rally Cry
10 sec PWB
10 sec HoP Smiz (SS/PoH spam)
10 sec HoP Zolena pump heal
6 sec Devo Vamp + Jas Tranq
total 46+ seconds (so we could roll 2 HoPs at same time if we do well initially)

2P1
.....wait then
15 sec Demo Banner
10 sec HoP Zolena Zen
10 sec HoP Smiz (SS/PoH spam) Revival
6 sec Devo pump heal
total 41 secs

In both phases personal CDs (particularly amongst the ranged dps) should be used towards the end of the phase where possible, so as to reduce the numbers of peopel needing heals and the chances of pushing down below 50%.

15 stacks (measured from the application of the first deafening screech) is about 53 seconds.

[Ziley]

How long are you planning on waiting before running cds?

[TeaLeaf]

As soon as the healing seems to start to struggle.    Realistically we're 10 seconds into Screeching before we need CDs in 1P1.    In 2P1 we start to need them real quickly as people are not grouping quickly enough at the transition.

[Ziley]

Looking at what you posted earlier it looks like we'll start to need them 28,5 seconds in which is where we'll get 4 sec, then 3 sec, then 2 sec for 3 screeches and then a screech every second. This means that the rotation you posted with 46 seconds will last until we have around 40 stacks of acceleration. If those cds are enough to keep us up during that time, then that'd be great, but if not we might as well look to either stack them or save them for the more healing intensive phase 1s that will follow later on.

[TeaLeaf]

Keep in mind that there is cross-over too and 'needs must' calls if we look like we are dipping in HP, so the intention is to last through to about 14-15 Screechs total before the transition.

[ayla]

just to add, in case my monk is used, I wont run with xuen especially on this fight.  I as a lot of other mistweavers for this encounter specifically, would use Rushing Jade Wind, which is a replacement for spinning crane.  It is something that can not be interupted and is on a 6s cd, but, lasts for 6s - does a minimal amount of damage but, will be used mainly for healing purposes.  Normally, I would use xuen for the dps gain, and his light healing cd, but, I've spoken with a few monks I know who have nailed this encounter, and from monk forums - it seems RJW is the talent of choice.

[Ziley]

Really good job guys! I must admit I thought it would've been a hard nut to crack with only one melee (spell casting does not seem fun on that fight! ).. Hopefully I'll be there for the kill next week, or well I should be available next week. But once again nice kill, and on to the single longest dungeon journal post of any raid instance ever.. Just remembering their names is going to be more than I can handle

[JonnyAppleSeed]

Just remembering their names is going to be more than I can handle

A new pack of post-it notes required for me