windows 10 to be free

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ReddFour

Tried everything but the display is broken. There is a rapidly growing thread on the official nvidia forums of people having various problems including the same as me. Judging by that that thread no one has a solution.

This official forum post by another user is pretty much exactly my problem

QuoteRunning 353.62 on my GTX 970 and stuck with 1 of 3 monitors with a resolution of 1024x768. Used DDU to try a fresh install of the drivers and still no luck. Used to have to boot to Safe Mode to even see my desktop, but I fixed that part. Device Manager says "Windows has stopped this device due to an error" under my GTX 970. This was never a problem in Windows 8.1 so I know it's a driver problem. No amount of reboots fixes this.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/860152/geforce-drivers/official-windows-10-353-62-game-ready-display-driver-feedback-thread-7-29-15-/12/

smilodon

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Can you guess what it is yet?
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Gorion

Three links people need to read before using MicroSuck Winblows 10.  I'm personally against everything this release introduces, including ads, forced updates, Wi-Fi password sharing, encryption key sharing and uploading in clear text, and all the rubbish they pulled out of their arses.  All the flippin crayon coloured boxy flatness included.

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I'll be sticking with W7 for the time being.  When Dx12 becomes a necessity for a very good game, I'll dual boot a W10 with everything MS "extra" related chopped out.  And yes, we already have loads of data out there cause of Google, but do I want to add more, including unencrypted crypto keys? No.
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TeaLeaf

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and breathe....... :roflmao:

There will be problems with any new release.   From whomever.   I'm happy to wait a month or three until the fuss blows over and initial teething problems fixed, you're under no obligation to upgrade, so relax!
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albert

Auto updates off and host file updated to point at loopback!
Cheers, Bert

kregoron

Quote from: Gorion;401794Three links people need to read before using MicroSuck Winblows 10.  I'm personally against everything this release introduces, including ads, forced updates, Wi-Fi password sharing, encryption key sharing and uploading in clear text, and all the rubbish they pulled out of their arses.  All the flippin crayon coloured boxy flatness included.

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Link3

I'll be sticking with W7 for the time being.  When Dx12 becomes a necessity for a very good game, I'll dual boot a W10 with everything MS "extra" related chopped out.  And yes, we already have loads of data out there cause of Google, but do I want to add more, including unencrypted crypto keys? No.

Lets chill down, nobody is forcing you to upgrade.. its a choice..



I thought you just hated MS in general...

Lets break it down..


Wifi sense.. PASSWORD is NOT shared, and the feature is optional, and is not enable by default.

Forced updates.. Use Win10Pro, then you get the options you want.

Encryption... Its not like you keys are stored in a document in plain text, they can be viewed by accessing a page yes, where they are shown yes, but i bet they are stored in a encrypted format. Else DONT use the feature... Use something else to encrypt your drives, problem solved.

Privacy issues, sooo Go have a look at Apple and Google's privacy agreements and you will probably die. You can BTW opt out whenever you want.
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Penfold

Quote from: albert;401796Auto updates off and host file updated to point at loopback!

how :)

Gorion

Quote from: kregoron;401797Lets chill down, nobody is forcing you to upgrade.. its a choice..



I thought you just hated MS in general...

Lets break it down..


Wifi sense.. PASSWORD is NOT shared, and the feature is optional, and is not enable by default.

Forced updates.. Use Win10Pro, then you get the options you want.

Encryption... Its not like you keys are stored in a document in plain text, they can be viewed by accessing a page yes, where they are shown yes, but i bet they are stored in a encrypted format. Else DONT use the feature... Use something else to encrypt your drives, problem solved.

Privacy issues, sooo Go have a look at Apple and Google's privacy agreements and you will probably die. You can BTW opt out whenever you want.



I actually do hate MS in general, however I didn't hate them before and W7 was brilliant, and so were XP and 2000 back in their days. Lately it's all bad decisions, and it always gets forced down our throats via the new non-backwards compatible Dx.  You know, I honestly thought that Satella coming on board would be a good thing; couldn't have been any more wrong.

Wifi sense is on by default, and it is shared automatically.  Sure, they don't know the actual key, but they still get access, and if you turn it on, your friend might have his on, before or after you provide access.  Encryption key is sent to your onedrive, and they share your onedrive contents with other paying/advertising companies/partners.  Do you recall where your encryption key is stored?  That's right, the same onedrive which its contents are shared.  In the meantime, they still haven't fixed the goddamed folder permission issues.

Having some other company violate your privacy does not make it fine for others to do the same.  And, you can actually bypass Google's data collection vacuum by disabling some stuff.  Oh yeah, and to disable MS data gathering, you need to buy a server or enterprise version.

And, even if you buy 10pro or enterprise, you will still get force-fed updates after a few months.  You can postpone them, but you can never cancel them.

Yes, I can bypass all this rubbish.  Does it make it fine? No it doesn't.  Commoner Joe won't know how to bypass same rubbish, and I don't follow the "I'm alright Fyou Jack" theorem.

And the literal cherry on the cake, Monthly/Yearly subscriptions to have ad-free Solitaire?  Really, how about we bend over next?  Wait, do we need to pay for a subscription to do that too?

I'm not foaming from the mouth.  However I am deeply disappointed.  We can agree to disagree I guess, no harsh feelings intended.
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kregoron

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Quote from: Gorion;401799I actually do hate MS in general, however I didn't hate them before and W7 was brilliant, and so were XP and 2000 back in their days. Lately it's all bad decisions, and it always gets forced down our throats via the new non-backwards compatible Dx.  You know, I honestly thought that Satella coming on board would be a good thing; couldn't have been any more wrong.

Wifi sense is on by default, and it is shared automatically.  Sure, they don't know the actual key, but they still get access, and if you turn it on, your friend might have his on, before or after you provide access.  Encryption key is sent to your onedrive, and they share your onedrive contents with other paying/advertising companies/partners.  Do you recall where your encryption key is stored?  That's right, the same onedrive which its contents are shared.

Having some other company violate your privacy does not make it fine for others to do the same.  And, you can actually bypass Google's data collection vacuum by disabling some stuff.  Oh yeah, and to disable MS data gathering, you need to buy a server or enterprise version.

And, even if you buy 10pro or enterprise, you will still get force-fed updates after a few months.  You can postpone them, but you can never cancel them.

Yes, I can bypass all this rubbish.  Does it make it fine? No it doesn't.  Commoner Joe won't know how to bypass same rubbish, and I don't follow the "I'm alright Fyou Jack" theorem.

And the literal cherry on the cake, Monthly/Yearly subscriptions to have ad-free Solitaire?  Really, how about we bend over next?  Wait, do we need to pay for a subscription to do that too?

I'm not foaming from the mouth.  However I am deeply disappointed.


Ive now upgraded 3 machines to win10pro build 10240, on none of them are the wifi profiles shared as default. the Feature might be activated, but no it does not share the profiles. Again.. it actually doesn't give access to anything but the internets. But if you give your passphrase out, you blip out of luck if they decide to share that.

Have you actually looked at the privacy settings in windows 10? Its teh most granular settings ive seen, from anyone with this kind of access to your data.

When both XP and 2k launch there was just as many issues and concerns as with 10, XP was a horrible OS the first year.
You can postpone em for 8 months, else grab KB3073930 which enables you to remove and hide most unwanted drivers and updates.

Solitaire.. seriously? Do people actually use that.... Grab it somewhere else then...

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Tutonic

QuoteI actually do hate MS in general

Not exactly a subjective review then.

Don't install it if you feel that strongly, there are plenty of alternatives.[/COLOR]
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albert

Quote from: Penfold;401798how :)

Disable all updates,  and add lines for the windows update urls to the \windows\system32\etc\hosts file.
Cheers, Bert

Blunt

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'Wait for SP1 till you grab it'
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Gorion

Quote from: Tutonic;401804Not exactly a subjective review then. [/COLOR]

This isn't a review.  It's actual w10 "features".

And just found more sketchy stuff.  Doesn't this equate to me using my bandwidth to seed updates to other users?  This was on by default too.

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Also note that by default, Apps can use your camera, microphone, sms/texts, calendar, and access your personal info.  In addition to apps automatically sharing and syncing info with wireless devices which didn't even pair with your pc/tablet/phone.
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smilodon

The rule of Microsoft does dictate that W10 is going to be a decent release

W10 - good
W8 - bad
W7 - good
Vista - bad
XP - good
ME - bad
98Se - good
98 - bad
95 - good

I think for anyone using Windows (or any OS for that matter bar Linux) a crucial step is to turn off the rubbish. So for W10 it's all the Bing, Cortana, Live Tiles, Windows store, forced update, Live account login...... nonsense. Basically de Microsoft your Windows install. Once it's stripped back to just an operating system it's not at all bad.
smilodon
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kregoron

Quote from: Gorion;401853This isn't a review.  It's actual w10 "features".

And just found more sketchy stuff.  Doesn't this equate to me using my bandwidth to seed updates to other users?  This was on by default too.

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Also note that by default, Apps can use your camera, microphone, sms/texts, calendar, and access your personal info.  In addition to apps automatically sharing and syncing info with wireless devices which didn't even pair with your pc/tablet/phone.

Yes updates can be sent between PC's to increase the effective bandwith, its P2P like a ton of other systems out there and its disablet on metered connections. So no it will not ruin your data package.

As for the apps, have you ever tried looking your Iphone/android apps? you have any idea what they got access to?
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